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Site Support / Re: Update Error when modifying Content Description?
« on: January 15, 2022, 07:16:34 AM »
Not exactly sure what you're talking about. If I go to my Account/Files and click the Edit button on one of my maps, the "Content" section says

"To link to your download just put [DOWNLOAD] and the system will add the link for you."

So I don't think that section can be directly changed?

Or are you talking about the "Description" box? I have no problems making changes there, and updated quite a few of them recently.

General Discussion / Re: GPSReview.net
« on: January 02, 2022, 05:56:50 PM »
That is great! Thanks for the update Dan, and Happy New Year!!!  :)

GPSr Units / Re: Map support for Garmin 66sr
« on: December 24, 2021, 08:01:58 AM »
I assume you are talking about the classic USGS 7.5 minute 1:24000 (24k) maps? You may find some that cover limited areas here, but Garmin has intentionally crippled this kind of map such that third party map-makers can only cover very small areas.

If you want this kind of map, IMO the best option by far is to purchase Garmin's own Birdseye raster topo. They use their own proprietary format that can cover huge areas. It's a subscription but only costs $30/year. However, after you download, the maps will continue to work forever, even if you don't renew the subscription.


BTW, the USGS discontinued these maps around 2000 and now considers them "historical documents" instead of maps. Personally, I love these old maps, they are what got me interested in making maps myself. But they are really out of date, many of them have not been updated since the 1970's - some are even older.

Map Making Support / Re: Mapwel Update
« on: December 03, 2021, 08:13:02 AM »
Cool!  8) I was impressed with what I saw of Mapwel and purchased a license myself. But that was somewhere around 2008 and I haven't touched it for over 10 years. In fact, I no longer make Garmin maps at all.

Enjoy your map making adventure. Wish I could be more positive, but I'd be very surprised if you find anyone else around here who uses Mapwel. Even sadder, I fear for the future of GPSFileDepot, the forums are being over-run by spammers. I report the posts, but obviously nobody is minding the store.

I truly hope that Dan cleans this up, this site has been a terrific resource for Garmin users and he deserves all the credit. But the future doesn't look good.  :(

Let's all hope that I am wrong.

General Discussion / Re: GPSReview.net
« on: November 17, 2021, 03:59:22 AM »
Gator, I'm wondering if gpsfiledepot will be the next casualty? It appears that nobody is minding the store and the site has become a playground for spammers, 12 spam posts in this forum alone. I report them but nothing happens. There hasn't been any active moderation on this site for years, but at least my reported posts would eventually be deleted.

Such a shame, let's hope Dan cleans this up.  :(

Using The Maps/Garmin Software / Re: new jersey topo has no topo lines
« on: November 03, 2021, 07:13:24 AM »
Haha, yes it is very flat down here in The Pines! We have Forked River "Mountain" with a summit less than 200 feet, for example.  :D  I no longer offer Garmin maps for download, but have quite a lot of South Jersey maps for your phone or computer in a free web app. The 2020 Topo has extreme detail with 5-foot elevation intervals from 1/3 arc-second data.


I used 1/9 arc-second LIDAR elevation data for 2' contours in my older 2017 topo


If you're really interested in elevation detail, see my shaded terrain from the highest-resolution 1-meter LIDAR


Or in color, with roads, buildings, property lines and other details


There are many others too. And in the next week or two, there will be a major update to the web app.

How would that work? I looked at it awhile back - they also have a web portal - and AFAIK you must own one of the newer (read: expensive) Garmin devices. I think it only allows your compatible Garmin devices (such as the Overlander) to download maps that were included in the purchase but not pre-loaded, such as scanned USGS topo's and digital globe (birdseye) imagery.

How would you use it to access third party .img files stored on your computer (as the OP has requested)? Maybe that's possible, but I never saw anything to suggest that it is.

Garmin broke MapInstall a couple years ago such that it would not install old-style maps that depend on the Windows registry. That prevented the majority of maps here at GPSFiledepot from working. However, the current version (which you apparently have) fixed that problem. And Garmin has not used this old format for their own maps for many years anyway, so the bug would not have affected them.

I really can't think of anything that would cause a "real" Garmin map to fail with Basecamp but still work with Mapsource. In the end, this is a problem with a Garmin product so I think you are at their mercy if it doesn't work. As a practical matter, just use Mapsource as they advised. Since it would only be needed when you install one map on your GPS, I don't see why that should be an issue, you could use Basecamp for everything else.

BTW, development work also ceased on Basecamp several years ago, so it has "one foot in the grave" too. Garmin is moving towards using an app, a web portal and the cloud for managing their new devices.

It could also be something specific to the GPSMap276cx, are you using the newest firmware? That has been a very controversial product and has angered/disappointed many of Garmin's most loyal customers. You could try asking some other owners in this long thread:


Using The Maps/Garmin Software / Re: CA-CentralProvTopo Map on Montana
« on: October 14, 2021, 04:34:33 AM »
There's also a limit to the total number of map segments that your GPS can access. When you exceed that limit, some maps (or parts of maps) just won't show up. This is completely unrelated to the size of the files or capacity of your memory card. IIRC, the limit is 4000 segments on the Montana.

I believe that Javawa Device Manager can show you the total number of segments. It's the total number that matters, doesn't matter whether the maps are in internal memory or a card, it's the total of all maps on both. If you have a lot of maps on the GPS, try removing some.

Using The Maps/Garmin Software / Re: CA-CentralProvTopo Map on Montana
« on: October 12, 2021, 03:11:56 PM »
I'm not a home now so I'd need to look at one of my gps's but I think there is a setting for internal/external maps.

I never saw a Garmin GPS with such a setting. Just create a Garmin folder on the SD card and put the map inside. The GPS should automatically look for maps in both folders. I also don't think the folder name is case-sensitive, pretty sure that "GARMIN", "Garmin" and "garmin" would all be recognized as map folders by the GPS.

A number of years ago, there were issues with map names that had non-alphabetic characters in them. I recall it in relation to "custom maps" (kmz files) specifically, and the dash character was one of the problems, so a name like CA-Central would not have worked. Most likely, that bug has been fixed, but if nothing else works, try re-naming the map file with only letters.

If you have a smartphone, use my web app (screenshot below). It has most of the trails and works just like a gps.


I've lived in Southern NJ for about 30 years and have offered free maps of the region since 2008. My maps are the result of considerable research and include lots of features you won't find anywhere else.

City Navigator is copy protected and must be purchased for each device. Any discussion of ways to circumvent copy protection is not allowed on this site.

Garmin sells the map as a download, but you must connect the desired GPS during the download process and it will then be permanently locked to only that device. So, if your GPS breaks or is lost then you're just out of luck. They also sell City Navigator pre-installed on memory cards. These cards can be used on any GPS, however, only one at a time. The cards are copy protected and cannot be duplicated.

I had a detailed map of NJ available here in the past, but I no longer make maps for Garmin devices. However, all my maps can be used on your phone with my free mobile web app. Here's one example that covers everything South of I-195, but there are many other maps available in the app.


A big update is coming for my web app in a few weeks, with lots of new features and full compatibility for desktop computers as well as phones.

For your GPS, you could look at the NJGIN trail map which was one of the data sources for my map. It can be downloaded as a KML file which I *think* Basecamp can import and export back out as a GPX file for your Garmin handheld (I haven't ever tried however). If not, then Google Earth should be able to open it and export as a GPX file.


Of course, that would just appear as a "track" on the GPS, and you would need another map to use as background.

General Discussion / Re: Utah topos
« on: October 05, 2021, 09:06:36 AM »
There are quite a few Utah topo maps on the site, have you looked at all of them?


My web app has a number of maps of that area, including OpenTopoMap, topo's, LIDAR imagery and aerials from the USGS plus street maps and aerials from HERE. Like all my maps, it's free with no ads and no registration. It does require an internet connection however.


General Discussion / Re: GPSReview.net
« on: September 27, 2021, 04:32:34 AM »
Hi Gator! Yes we have been in touch, he had no idea what was going on either but said he would see what he could find out. Last e-mail I got from him was Sept 15 and he said he hoped to know more "soon". Obviously, that didn't happen so I haven't bothered him again.

Oh well, we all knew it was going to happen eventually. The owners of the site obviously didn't care, Tim said he was trying to get them to move to HTTPS last year but they weren't interested. From what I could tell, Tim was not really involved with site management anymore, I think it was pretty much on "automatic" and this is the result. Just like GPSPassion, I suspect very few people will actually miss it.

So.... on to the "next big thing". Spending all my time finishing up my own new web app. The Garmin era is over (for me at least).  ;)

Map Making Support / Re: OSM > .mp (polish) experts here? :'(
« on: September 19, 2021, 01:48:46 PM »
As I understood it, @groovy is trying make a routable Garmin map. Sorry, that's something I have never done.

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