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What is a "600"? Oregon? Montana? Seems like a number of things could cause a problem like that, could be as simple as an SD card that isn't firmly seated, bad battery connection or a hardware problem with the GPS.

Try removing the card and install a map in internal memory. Does that work? Is your firmware up to date? Did you recently update it before this happened?

The message means exactly what it says. The eTrex Vista is a very old GPS that was introduced before Garmin developed their "custom map" format.  Just to be clear, I assume you are trying to use the maps on this page


If so, I'm afraid the message is correct. None of those maps are compatible with your GPS.

This is pretty surprising, and makes Garmin look even more desparate these days. New firmware for some handheld devices is intentionally disabling routing on OSM maps - this could affect some of the maps here at gpsfiledepot. For example, see this eTrex firmware update changelog:


More information in this thread


Using The Maps/Garmin Software / Re: How to download maps from ARCGIS?
« on: March 22, 2021, 10:39:46 AM »
There are a variety of ways, many of them involve using cgpsmapper software which has been discontinued. It is still available at archive.org and you can read the mapmaking tutorials on this site


Or you could look at Mapwel which is more user-friendly and does not require any other software to create the map. It is not free however.


Using The Maps/Garmin Software / Re: AVENZA MAPS
« on: March 19, 2021, 03:59:54 AM »
It's funny, I'm working on a gps web app for phones and have been looking for public map servers that I can add (already have over 100). A few days ago I found the forest service site and was initially excited by all the maps there. Spent awhile looking and got discouraged however, each of these is pretty crude, just displaying a certain type of feature instead of a complete map. I played around for awhile trying to combine them with other maps but had limited success as there are some technical issues (some of the maps aren't transparent, for example).

Anyway, here's the root directory of the available map services, there are a lot of maps in the enclosed folders.


Maybe you can find something of interest? I had other things to do and  moved on, but was planning to revisit these at some point. I'm open to adding these to my app if they're useful. You can view the maps by clicking "View in ArcGIS Online Map Viewer" in most cases. But keep in mind, the base map that is shown there is a proprietary ArcGIS product, I would need to use a different background map. And as I said, that doesn't always seem to work.

Here's my web app, it's free with no registration or advertising. Works on iPhones and Android Phones. Although it works as a web site, for the best experience you should install it. That just takes a second, see the instructions in the Help Menu. It also works on computers, but it's been optimized for smaller touch screen devices.


This app is now the focus of all my map-making work. I'm done with Garmin and am discontinuing all my downloadable maps. Will be adding lots more maps and new features to the app, I work on it every day.  :)

Using The Maps/Garmin Software / Re: AVENZA MAPS
« on: March 18, 2021, 12:57:25 PM »
It's a shame that government agencies are using proprietary map formats for their maps. I have nothing against using private companies, but the data should be available in formats that can be used without commercial software. For example, the USGS is now storing large datasets on AWS (Amazon Web Services) and streaming web data from ArcGIS but these are still free and use open standards.

Using The Maps/Garmin Software / Re: AVENZA MAPS
« on: March 18, 2021, 11:45:31 AM »
Wow, never heard of that before. Some very quick research shows they're an online platform for use on mobile devices and mapmakers can sell their maps through their store... for a "modest" 50% comission  ::) Suppose they should get some credit for that however, Garmin just tells third party mapmakers to "get lost" if their work covers any area that Garmin already covers (basically, the whole world).

Anyway, as far as I can tell, it is only a way to use their maps on your phone with their app. The Forest Service website says:

"The Avenza Maps Mobile App, developed by Avenza Systems Inc., is available as a free download from iTunes and the Android Play Store. The app provides access to Forest Service maps, such as motor-vehicle-use maps, which are free while pages from national forest atlases are 99 cents and forest visitor maps are $4.99. Prices are pending for other agency maps."

The FAQ on the Avensite site makes it pretty clear you can't do what you want...


No, downloaded maps are delivered to the buyer's Avenza Maps account and may not be printed, shared or redistributed to other users. Downloaded maps can only be used in the Avenza Maps app and are not compatible with other apps or map readers."

General Discussion / Re: Property ownership boundaries
« on: March 10, 2021, 11:08:37 AM »
You will not get "precise depth" from any public data or consumer grade GPS, so your best bet would be to consult a surveyor if that's what you need. Based on my own experience, I think the closest you will get to each corner is about +/- 10 meters (about 33 feet) and that is not even assured. I wouldn't trust it for putting up a fence.  ;)

I don't know of any single source for property data, so it depends on your exact location. Many states offer downloadable shapefiles of tax parcels but they will include a disclaimer that they aren't survey grade data. If your state doesn't have the data, check with you county or city. Try some Google searches with phrases like GIS data and parcels - for example, if you live in Smith County Texas, try a Google search such as

smith county texas gis data parcels

However, turning this data into a map for your GPS is very technical and complicated - way more than I could explain here. My web app has some maps that include parcels for my area (Southern New Jersey) so you could find approximate property boundaries using your phone as a GPS, but only if you happen to live in my area. :)


I have been adding maps of other areas however, so if somebody here knows public mapservices (either WMS or Tiles) for other states, I would consider adding them.

OpenStreetMap would be a good choice, they have a very permissive license


If you need topo maps, have a look at OpenTopoMap. There are also other OSM-based topo's.


Each map author sets their own usage policy. So, unless you just plan to steal the maps, you will need the author's permission. These maps are not open source, unless the author has stated so. IMO, it would be outrageous for you to take an author's work, change it and then use it in a publication you are going to sell for profit. The original author deserves a share of that profit.

If you can't contact the author, why not just use openstreetmap where the usage policy is clear?

See this:


"Maps downloaded from GPSFileDepot may not be resold or re-distributed without express written permission from the map author. Additionally, many maps have been created using a version of cgpsmapper that does not allow for commercial application (selling) of these maps. Do NOT download and redistribute or sell maps from GPSFileDepot."

"Map author's set their own terms and conditions for each map they upload and these will be enforced by GPSFileDepot."

GPSr Units / Re: Oregon 300 now giving 'memory full' message
« on: February 28, 2021, 03:54:16 AM »
Cool!  8)

GPSr Units / Re: Oregon 300 now giving 'memory full' message
« on: February 25, 2021, 08:34:41 AM »
Sounds like you have checked everything out. I had an Oregon 400t (same series as your 300) but gave it to a friend many years ago. It was a great unit in its day, but the screen was just terrible and processor really slow.

Only other thing that occurs to me is whether you have used it with a Macintosh, because that will create invisible files that can fill the memory. I'm assuming that isn't the case, since you are seeing so much free space. I also wonder exactly what "memory" means in that error message. Could it be a problem with the device's RAM instead of flash memory? Or perhaps the NVRAM that isn't user-accessible and holds the system firmware?

The segment limit could be a problem, IIRC that device has a limit of 4000 map tiles total (including internal memory and card). If you have removed all the maps, I don't see how that could be an issue however.

I'd say it's time to give it a decent burial and move on.  :(

General Discussion / Re: New Maps for Canada, US and Mexico
« on: December 19, 2020, 06:41:30 PM »
Boyd, a long time poster here has brought up on other threads that some older Basecamp versions will not display custom maps (like mine)

I have not been following this thread too closely, but had the impression you were creating .gmap files for Basecamp (as opposed to the older registry-based maps). If so, then the Basecamp version probably won't matter. The Basecamp bug only affected the old registry-based map format. This was not initally clear, so there are some old threads here that claimed all maps were affected by the Basecamp bug.

General Discussion / Re: Downloading maps to a Mac
« on: December 19, 2020, 04:00:52 AM »
When you see a folder instead of a map file, that means Garmin MapManager has not been installed on your computer. Download and install Basecamp


It should install three programs

Garmin Basecamp
Garmin MapInstall
Garmin MapManager

Confirm that these are in your Applications folder. After they are installed, that "folder" should change into a "file". When you double-click it, MapManager should open and ask if you want to install the map. Then see these tutorials (unfortunately, I think they're a bit out of date however)


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