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General Discussion / Re: Garmin Basecamp
« on: February 12, 2020, 09:16:25 AM »
Might have something to do with the Windows registry. Have you seen this post from 93ToyTruck?


As for "whats going on"... Basecamp is a mess and Garmin got tired of trying to fix it, so they have abandoned it and moved on to a web-based program that supports their new, premium devices.  ;)

General Discussion / Re: Garmin Basecamp
« on: February 10, 2020, 04:11:14 AM »
Not sure what would be gained by waiting. Basecamp has been discontinued and Garmin isn't going to be improving it. We were all surprised when they actually fixed the map installation bug. But it took a year and a half before they did that.

General Discussion / Re: Topo Maps on a Nuvi
« on: February 10, 2020, 04:09:08 AM »
Why do you have to wait for a couple weeks? You can look at different place on the GPS without actually being there. And you can turn on the GPS simulator in the menu so it will act like you really are there.

General Discussion / Re: Topo Maps on a Nuvi
« on: February 08, 2020, 04:48:18 PM »
First, these are not "disc image files". I know that's what your computer says, but it's wrong. ;) They are Garmin map files. The problem is that the .img extension is used for different kinds of files.

A little hard to tell, but what you describe sounds OK. I assume you can you view the map(s) in Basecamp/Mapsource on your computer? See this tutorial for map installation. Unfortunately, it's a little out of date.


Anyway, there shouldn't be a problem using topo maps on a Nuvi. Sometimes, they don't look very good, but they work. So - sorry - you must be doing something wrong.

General Discussion / Re: Topo Maps on a Nuvi
« on: February 08, 2020, 04:28:17 AM »
What is the "predecessor of this site"? GPSFileDepot has been around for quite some time.... I have been posting maps here since 2008, and it was not new then. :) But anyway, it's meaningless to talk about the "maps from this site" as though they had something in common. They do not. This site is just a collection of maps by many different people. There are no standards for how they are made and there can be big differences in the approach and method. of the authors. In other words, it's like talking about the "books from the library", as though they all had something in common.

Most of the maps here should work on a Nuvi. If you are having problems with all of them, then you must be doing something wrong (or you're incredibly unlucky in choosing maps that have problems).

I spent a fair effort to make my own maps look good on a Nuvi. They may not cover an area you want, but they definitely work on the Nuvi - try this as a test: https://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/785/

Are you saying that you have an SD card where your old maps work but new ones installed at the same time don't? That would be odd. How many maps total do you have on the card? Where are they installed? Newer Nuvis like yours expect the map to be installed in a folder named Map. If the card is in a computer slot or USB reader (instead of inserted in the GPS) when you install the map, then Garmin's software may not do this correctly.

Also, with Mapsource, when you install a new map, it will erase an old map on the card because it always uses the filename gmapsupp.img. MapInstall shouldn't do that. You can also manually re-name gmapsupp.img to something else, like topo.img after installing.

If you don't format the card as FAT-32, then it will not work in the GPS. How big is the card? Cards larger than 32gb will not work properly.

Also, are you sure you have the newest version of Basecamp? Because the version before that was broken an could NOT install most of the maps from this site.

Just some ideas. No idea what's wrong, but almost all the maps here should work on your GPS.

GPSr Units / Re: GPSMap62s Track List issue unresolved by Garmin Support
« on: February 06, 2020, 08:48:47 AM »
LOL, Garmin will drive you crazy.  ;D

General Discussion / Re: Why has a map of the entire US not been made?
« on: February 06, 2020, 08:46:36 AM »
Well, sorry, my memory was wrong on that point. It actually had a lot more - total of 6633 segments in Topo 2008! I had this version and an older version from around 2004? Then I have two new versions with the small segment count (about 500) that were pre-loaded on my Oregon 400t and DriveTrack 71. See this old article:


"The 2008 topo maps have a total of 6633 segments."

It's my opinion that large files aren't a problem in and of themselves. But in my case, these are unique maps you can't find anywhere else, so if somebody wants them, they have no choice. And my target is mostly smartphone app users, not Garmin owners. People using dedicated Garmin handhelds might be a little more.... old fashioned?  ;D

All I can say is that nobody has yet complained about file sizes. My maps load into Mobile Atlas Creator where users can send smaller portions to either a GPS or phone (like MapInstall).

General Discussion / Re: Why has a map of the entire US not been made?
« on: February 06, 2020, 04:53:49 AM »
Maybe I don't understand what you're saying Popej? As mentioned above, Garmin's old 100k US Topo had about 4500 tiles in a single mapset. It was originally distributed on multiple CD's, and later they switched to one DVD.

That is very interesting about MapInstall splitting files automatically. Didn't know it could do that!

Regarding large files, I disagree. I make big multi-level raster maps at very high resolution. They are specialized maps that only cover the small region where I live in Southern New Jersey. These are all big files and the two most popular are 15gb and 12gb with lots of downloads. https://boydsmaps.com

So IMO, if the map is something that people want, large files are not a problem (at least here in the US).

GPSr Units / Re: GPSMap62s Track List issue unresolved by Garmin Support
« on: February 05, 2020, 10:05:33 AM »
Good find!  8) I knew this was true with waypoints on automotive devices, and has been a complaint for a long time. Didn't realize it was also the case with handhelds. They really should give you a choice of sorting. And their iPhone app "StreetPilot" actually had that option, which I really liked. But Garmin killed that app, I guess they felt it was hurting sales of their dedicated devices.  >:(

General Discussion / Re: Garmin nuvi 760
« on: February 05, 2020, 04:17:06 AM »
Most of the files here should work on a Nuvi 760 but they are not capable of creating routes or providing turn-by-turn directions. They can only show your location on the map. For automotive routing, have a look at OpenStreetMap: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

GPSr Units / Re: GPSMap62s Track List issue unresolved by Garmin Support
« on: February 01, 2020, 09:31:06 AM »
Perhaps something a little stronger than tea?  ;D

GPSr Units / Re: GPSMap62s Track List issue unresolved by Garmin Support
« on: January 31, 2020, 09:50:07 AM »
Interesting. In the end, you may just have to accept the fact that it won't do what you want.  >:(

GPSr Units / Re: GPSMap62s Track List issue unresolved by Garmin Support
« on: January 31, 2020, 08:26:56 AM »
This is just a guess (but an educated one, I hope).... they are probably using information INSIDE the track files to sort the list. Not quite clear from your post, but maybe they are using the date the track was recorded?

.gpx files are just plain text and are human-readable. Open a file and have a look, this can be done in any text editor such as Notepad on Windows or TextEdit on the Mac. Was recently writing some software to work with .gpx files, and just had a quick look. There's a timestamp at the beginning of the file, like this:

Code: [Select]
    <link href="http://www.garmin.com">
    <text>Garmin International</text>

If it's using that timestamp for sorting, then you could manually change it to force a sort in any order you like. The "Z" indicates they are in Zulu time. There's also a name inside the file that it might be using, and Basecamp might not change it.

It should go without saying that you should make backup copies of the .gpx files before attempting to modify them. :)

General Discussion / Re: Basecamp Maps missing
« on: January 30, 2020, 11:04:09 AM »
Depends on the type of maps you're talking about. Garmin's own products use the newer "gmap" format, where you can just drag files around without causing problems. Very few third party maps use this format however (with the exception of Mac versions, which always use gmap).

The vast majorithy of maps at gpsfiledepot use Garmin's old "registry format" however, and you cannot move these files around without causing major problems. And just backing up the files and copying back usually won't work either. This is because the maps use the Windows registry, and that is not affected when you just move the files around.

So this gets pretty complicated, and you may have created some big problems if you moved the files away for their installed location. To move maps to a different location, use the free GMTK program, it will also adjust the registry as needed.


That may not help if you've already moved them however. But give it a try, it will attempt to analyze and fix map problems automatically. MapsetToolkit is another way to install/move maps, but it is more complicated than I can explain here.


If you still have installers from your maps, or if they are available here at GPSFileDepot, it might be easier to just download/install again if you can't figure this out.

General Discussion / Re: Why has a map of the entire US not been made?
« on: January 16, 2020, 04:32:47 AM »
Yeah, the Garmin 100k topo isn't very good. I have had 4 different versions of it going back through the years. It used to be the only topo map that Garmin sold. At least the current version has decent roads from HERE (same as City Navigator).

But actually, if you read the OP again, he isn't asking for a better map, just a free one.  ;)

I know Garmin has the 100k topo maps. I was wondering why there is not a free version.

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