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General Discussion / Re: lLoading Garmin custom maps to eTrex Vista HCx
« on: March 30, 2021, 05:44:18 PM »
mark27,
One of my GPS unit is also the HCx Vista! Mine still works great. You didn't say exactly what kind of map you are looking for but you might take a look here: https://alternativaslibres.org/en/downloads.php
Some maps require donation/registration others request a donation. Down towards the bottom of the page are the links for several versions the guy offers for Australia. If you choose the GPS version, after extracting you may need to rename the .img file to gmapsupp.img as this is the only name our model will take. Also the sd card must be 4>gb or at least formated for no more that 4>gb fat32 (larger cards work but excess space must be unused)
Prior to making my own maps I tested these guy maps, on basecamp, gps and orux they worked on all of them. These maps are quite "loaded" fyi as most every poi etc is included.
Australia is kinda under represented but start here. It will get a map on your unit and give you time to seek out other possibilities if needed.
Sockmonkey
One of my GPS unit is also the HCx Vista! Mine still works great. You didn't say exactly what kind of map you are looking for but you might take a look here: https://alternativaslibres.org/en/downloads.php
Some maps require donation/registration others request a donation. Down towards the bottom of the page are the links for several versions the guy offers for Australia. If you choose the GPS version, after extracting you may need to rename the .img file to gmapsupp.img as this is the only name our model will take. Also the sd card must be 4>gb or at least formated for no more that 4>gb fat32 (larger cards work but excess space must be unused)
Prior to making my own maps I tested these guy maps, on basecamp, gps and orux they worked on all of them. These maps are quite "loaded" fyi as most every poi etc is included.
Australia is kinda under represented but start here. It will get a map on your unit and give you time to seek out other possibilities if needed.
Sockmonkey
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Map Making Support / Re: How to rename information and getting started
« on: March 29, 2021, 07:28:26 PM »
First, did you not notice the little "c" means COPYRIGHT, your are unlikely to find help on this site to 'edit' another's work, this is not the place to ask!
Second, Have you contacted the author of the map and/or read and understand the Open Street Map license terms and to see if making the edit you want is allowed?
Third, if you don't have the computer skills to do what you want to do it's not something you should be doing!
Second, Have you contacted the author of the map and/or read and understand the Open Street Map license terms and to see if making the edit you want is allowed?
Third, if you don't have the computer skills to do what you want to do it's not something you should be doing!
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Using The Maps/Garmin Software / Re: AVENZA MAPS
« on: March 18, 2021, 05:20:07 PM »
gasgas,
I saw this and thought I'd opin in with my .02
https://data.fs.usda.gov/geodata/rastergateway/states-regions/states.php
In addition to displaying the maps I've been making, Orux maps https://www.oruxmaps.com/cs/en/more/downloads will display geopdf's as well as several other formats. Orux is free from the authors site (optional to donate) or pay for the googleplay version which doesn't really give you any more functionallity. It's android only so use your own or get some old phone on ebay and a micro sd and your set. There is a learning curve to the app, but it has A LOT of features. I've been using it for 5+ years and it's great. I've also tried a lot of other apps (though not Avenza) both the free and (cough, cough, pro, cough, cough versions) of other apps and they seem lacking.
The FS geopdf's are basically quads with designated trails, etc. On a computer various layers can be peeled away for viewing though it is complete map on Orux. Personally I'm weary of most of the paid, subscription or "in app purchase" models as comparable solutions can be found with a little bit of work on the users end. Give this a go and see if it works for your needs. You can always buck up later if it doesn't. If you have any more questions you can post here or pm me and I'll see if I can help.
Sockmonkey
I saw this and thought I'd opin in with my .02
https://data.fs.usda.gov/geodata/rastergateway/states-regions/states.php
In addition to displaying the maps I've been making, Orux maps https://www.oruxmaps.com/cs/en/more/downloads will display geopdf's as well as several other formats. Orux is free from the authors site (optional to donate) or pay for the googleplay version which doesn't really give you any more functionallity. It's android only so use your own or get some old phone on ebay and a micro sd and your set. There is a learning curve to the app, but it has A LOT of features. I've been using it for 5+ years and it's great. I've also tried a lot of other apps (though not Avenza) both the free and (cough, cough, pro, cough, cough versions) of other apps and they seem lacking.
The FS geopdf's are basically quads with designated trails, etc. On a computer various layers can be peeled away for viewing though it is complete map on Orux. Personally I'm weary of most of the paid, subscription or "in app purchase" models as comparable solutions can be found with a little bit of work on the users end. Give this a go and see if it works for your needs. You can always buck up later if it doesn't. If you have any more questions you can post here or pm me and I'll see if I can help.
Sockmonkey
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General Discussion / Re: Wondering about permission to adapt maps for hiking guidebook
« on: March 03, 2021, 08:56:53 AM »
Bill, this may or may not meet your needs. OSM data as source is current/recent.
https://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/832
https://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/832
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General Discussion / Re: New Maps for Canada, US and Mexico
« on: February 08, 2021, 07:43:35 AM »
Updated US-AlaskaTopo! Since the last update I've gain a little more knowledge into the Open Street Map world. The last map was made with the most current at the time, and the only data I used, but not necessarily the most complete. When I downloaded the most recent Alaska "extract" several land areas were flooded in in coastal areas. I also compared the extract to previous versions which didn't have the flooding and also had a somewhat more complete displaying of several prominent boundary's (ANWR for one). As the "community" can edit OSM they can add, remove or change the data. Mostly people do so correctly, but not always. Alaska is a small population state and of course a big area. Some data has never been added and it looks like some was deleted and not re uploaded. What one may see using OSM on the web is not necessarily what is available in the data that is downloaded as an extract and visa versa, I plan on investigating this in the future.
With that said I'll now talk about the Alaska update.
I lived in Alaska and at one time or another visited many of the units within the Alaska State Park system. As near as I can tell several of the larger state park unit boundary's (and trails) have been submitted to osm and are available as part of the data extract, but most of the 150+ units had not. I went to the Alaska DNR website and downloaded the boundary's and trails and merged those with a slightly older osm data extract to process to what we can now see. I fully expect to upload the State Park boundary's and trail to osm in the near future.
NPS, Forest Service, BLM and UFWS land boundary's seem to come and go. Either "accidentally" deleted, incorrectly tagged or some other reason. In order to make sure I was including what I wanted in the map I went to the respective land management entity, download boundary data and merged it like i did State Park data. I need to do more research but intend to upload or re upload missing data as appropriate.
As I've analyzed and made my various maps Alaska has stood out as being more incomplete when using just OSM data which is why I've supplemented it with other sources. Hopefully this gives the user a less incomplete map for whatever purposes they may have.
Sockmonkey
With that said I'll now talk about the Alaska update.
I lived in Alaska and at one time or another visited many of the units within the Alaska State Park system. As near as I can tell several of the larger state park unit boundary's (and trails) have been submitted to osm and are available as part of the data extract, but most of the 150+ units had not. I went to the Alaska DNR website and downloaded the boundary's and trails and merged those with a slightly older osm data extract to process to what we can now see. I fully expect to upload the State Park boundary's and trail to osm in the near future.
NPS, Forest Service, BLM and UFWS land boundary's seem to come and go. Either "accidentally" deleted, incorrectly tagged or some other reason. In order to make sure I was including what I wanted in the map I went to the respective land management entity, download boundary data and merged it like i did State Park data. I need to do more research but intend to upload or re upload missing data as appropriate.
As I've analyzed and made my various maps Alaska has stood out as being more incomplete when using just OSM data which is why I've supplemented it with other sources. Hopefully this gives the user a less incomplete map for whatever purposes they may have.
Sockmonkey
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General Discussion / Re: New Maps for Canada, US and Mexico
« on: December 30, 2020, 09:58:45 AM »
Great to hear about your success!
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General Discussion / Re: New Maps for Canada, US and Mexico
« on: December 29, 2020, 06:16:06 PM »
jeaut,
Sorry you are having trouble getting the map on your 60csx. Some others on this site may have more to add about your model since I don't have that same model but...
When I was doing some early testing I used my etrex 30 and an old etrex hcx vista. The 30 will accept multiple maps in named format and cards up to 32gb. The vista is limited to 4gb card and one mapset. My quick research showed the 60csx is limited to a 4gb card. It looks like my vista is similar to yours. There are a couple of routes (no pun intended) to pursue:
-Make a copy of the CA-CentralProvTopo and rename it gmapsupp.img (older models will ONLY accept this name. On your gps the folder on your sd card must be named Garmin exactly as I typed it. Copy and paste the gmapsupp.img into the Garmin folder. This is all assuming that your gps is attached to your computer and the proper usb cable is used for 2 way communication between the computer and device. Remove cable and power cycle gps and maps should now load. Keep in mind if you have other maps on the card they will be overwritten. Get some more 4gb cards or learn to format and partition larger size cards to 4gb or less to swap out cards if needed. I have about 8 2-4gb cards that I used in the past for the vista.
-One possibility that mapinstall cannot see your gps is that your basecamp version is older than 4.7.1, so make sure you basecamp is currrent. There are other threads here about this.
https://forums.gpsfiledepot.com/index.php?topic=4642.0 this on touches on your situation, so you might try using mapsource as well.
You are not the first or will be the last who faces challenges getting maps to their gps regardless if the are Garmins own maps or custom made Garmin compatible maps. Be persistent, expect to learn and be frustrated and eventually succeed. Let us know how it goes.
sockmonkey
Sorry you are having trouble getting the map on your 60csx. Some others on this site may have more to add about your model since I don't have that same model but...
When I was doing some early testing I used my etrex 30 and an old etrex hcx vista. The 30 will accept multiple maps in named format and cards up to 32gb. The vista is limited to 4gb card and one mapset. My quick research showed the 60csx is limited to a 4gb card. It looks like my vista is similar to yours. There are a couple of routes (no pun intended) to pursue:
-Make a copy of the CA-CentralProvTopo and rename it gmapsupp.img (older models will ONLY accept this name. On your gps the folder on your sd card must be named Garmin exactly as I typed it. Copy and paste the gmapsupp.img into the Garmin folder. This is all assuming that your gps is attached to your computer and the proper usb cable is used for 2 way communication between the computer and device. Remove cable and power cycle gps and maps should now load. Keep in mind if you have other maps on the card they will be overwritten. Get some more 4gb cards or learn to format and partition larger size cards to 4gb or less to swap out cards if needed. I have about 8 2-4gb cards that I used in the past for the vista.
-One possibility that mapinstall cannot see your gps is that your basecamp version is older than 4.7.1, so make sure you basecamp is currrent. There are other threads here about this.
https://forums.gpsfiledepot.com/index.php?topic=4642.0 this on touches on your situation, so you might try using mapsource as well.
You are not the first or will be the last who faces challenges getting maps to their gps regardless if the are Garmins own maps or custom made Garmin compatible maps. Be persistent, expect to learn and be frustrated and eventually succeed. Let us know how it goes.
sockmonkey
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General Discussion / Re: New Maps for Canada, US and Mexico
« on: December 19, 2020, 05:33:57 PM »
rogertj,
Welcome to GPS Files Depot, I have been around here since 2009 but didn't register until a couple of months back. It's a great source for Garmin maps and gps related subjects.
Your issue sounds similar to a user a few weeks back https://forums.gpsfiledepot.com/index.php?topic=4816.0 though they haven't yet responded if they were/were not successful.
A Garmin image file can't really be directly installed in Basecamp it's to put on your gps, but...
https://www.javawa.nl/jdm_en.html JaVaWa Device Manager will allow you to view a garmin .img on a usb or virtual disk so follow those instructions or my recommended method is listed on the linked post. Simply download the MX-MexicoTopo the "Mac" version extract per the instructions and copy to your C:\ProgramData\Garmin\Maps folder to then be available to Basecamp.
Boyd, a long time poster here has brought up on other threads that some older Basecamp versions will not display custom maps (like mine) I am using 4.7.1 and it works, so make sure your Basecamp is up to date!
Of the maps available on GPS Files Depot there is not a universal way to get the maps to Basecamp. The hosts of this site do offer installers to map contributors here but not all have them (like mine), some maps which are displayed here but downloaded at another site may have there own installers and methods to get maps to Basecamp and/or GPS.
As to my contributions to mapping I'm one of many and for now Garmin compatible GPS maps. I've enjoyed making them and I'm I'm glad we have this site to offer them. It happened over months and years which finally took me down this rabbit hole...
Post back if you get things working or have further problems and best of luck on your own Mapping journey.
Sockmonkey
Welcome to GPS Files Depot, I have been around here since 2009 but didn't register until a couple of months back. It's a great source for Garmin maps and gps related subjects.
Your issue sounds similar to a user a few weeks back https://forums.gpsfiledepot.com/index.php?topic=4816.0 though they haven't yet responded if they were/were not successful.
A Garmin image file can't really be directly installed in Basecamp it's to put on your gps, but...
https://www.javawa.nl/jdm_en.html JaVaWa Device Manager will allow you to view a garmin .img on a usb or virtual disk so follow those instructions or my recommended method is listed on the linked post. Simply download the MX-MexicoTopo the "Mac" version extract per the instructions and copy to your C:\ProgramData\Garmin\Maps folder to then be available to Basecamp.
Boyd, a long time poster here has brought up on other threads that some older Basecamp versions will not display custom maps (like mine) I am using 4.7.1 and it works, so make sure your Basecamp is up to date!
Of the maps available on GPS Files Depot there is not a universal way to get the maps to Basecamp. The hosts of this site do offer installers to map contributors here but not all have them (like mine), some maps which are displayed here but downloaded at another site may have there own installers and methods to get maps to Basecamp and/or GPS.
As to my contributions to mapping I'm one of many and for now Garmin compatible GPS maps. I've enjoyed making them and I'm I'm glad we have this site to offer them. It happened over months and years which finally took me down this rabbit hole...
Post back if you get things working or have further problems and best of luck on your own Mapping journey.
Sockmonkey
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Using The Maps/Garmin Software / Re: Problem with US-WestTopo map installation
« on: December 02, 2020, 02:50:15 PM »
Hi,
You shouldn't have to "install" in the normal way and I developed these maps to not have to install.
I'm not sure which version you downloaded, but the "Windows" version is an ".img" and is intended to be directly install to the gps device. Using gmap tool, it can be unpacked or "split". In that folder along with the map/image files there is and "install.bat" this may work or it might not. In my testing about half the time the tool threw errors, and for those unfamiliar with gmaptool and maps kludging through the options and settings was not a good recommended way for and easy install of my maps. This is a great tool but it is part of a mappers toolkit.
With Windows 10 you should have downloaded the "Mac" version, I had a quick blurb in the map descriptions but can list and eleaborate it here as well
1) Download Mac version of US-WestTopo to location of your choice.
2) Unpack .zip file (I use 7zip) others will work as well.
3) You should now have a folder that is mapname.gmapi, you are not done yet..
4) You need to open that folder and should now have a folder that is that is mapname.gmap if it still ends end gmapi open one more time, it must end in gmap, no little i!
5) Open windows explorer, open local drive usually C, you should see a folder that is named Program Data if not you need to go to folder options and enable show hidden folders.
6)Now that Program Data is visible open it, during install of Basecamp it creates a folder called Garmin and within is a folder called Maps
7) That map you unzipped and opened until (but no further) it ends in .gmap copy that folder to the C:/ProgramData/Garmin/Maps folder. Open Basecamp and map should be available now to view
So, Dmitry, start over and follow these instructions. With a little practice the whole process takes a few minutes after downloading to be viewing the map This works 100% of the time and this is how I load my maps on my non map making windows computers. There is some other info on GPSFilesDepot about gmapi format but try this first and post again if it doesn't work and I and/or others will try to help...or post if successful.
Sockmonkey
You shouldn't have to "install" in the normal way and I developed these maps to not have to install.
I'm not sure which version you downloaded, but the "Windows" version is an ".img" and is intended to be directly install to the gps device. Using gmap tool, it can be unpacked or "split". In that folder along with the map/image files there is and "install.bat" this may work or it might not. In my testing about half the time the tool threw errors, and for those unfamiliar with gmaptool and maps kludging through the options and settings was not a good recommended way for and easy install of my maps. This is a great tool but it is part of a mappers toolkit.
With Windows 10 you should have downloaded the "Mac" version, I had a quick blurb in the map descriptions but can list and eleaborate it here as well
1) Download Mac version of US-WestTopo to location of your choice.
2) Unpack .zip file (I use 7zip) others will work as well.
3) You should now have a folder that is mapname.gmapi, you are not done yet..
4) You need to open that folder and should now have a folder that is that is mapname.gmap if it still ends end gmapi open one more time, it must end in gmap, no little i!
5) Open windows explorer, open local drive usually C, you should see a folder that is named Program Data if not you need to go to folder options and enable show hidden folders.
6)Now that Program Data is visible open it, during install of Basecamp it creates a folder called Garmin and within is a folder called Maps
7) That map you unzipped and opened until (but no further) it ends in .gmap copy that folder to the C:/ProgramData/Garmin/Maps folder. Open Basecamp and map should be available now to view
So, Dmitry, start over and follow these instructions. With a little practice the whole process takes a few minutes after downloading to be viewing the map This works 100% of the time and this is how I load my maps on my non map making windows computers. There is some other info on GPSFilesDepot about gmapi format but try this first and post again if it doesn't work and I and/or others will try to help...or post if successful.
Sockmonkey
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General Discussion / Re: New Maps for Canada, US and Mexico
« on: November 23, 2020, 11:30:41 AM »
After my last update I wondered why most if not all of the maps had grown so much, up to 40% larger! It looks like the DEM (3d/shading) values were the cause. Now just using basic values and it doesn't appear to affect the visuals that I can tell. The next round of updates will be smaller download and map size; I've also added in where state/province will display big and boldly in base camp and gps, but only normal size in orux maps
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General Discussion / Re: New Maps for Canada, US and Mexico
« on: November 06, 2020, 06:03:10 AM »
PopeJ,
I use the default typ and style, earlier various known wilderness/protected areas, on land, did not render at all. After trial and error, a lot, using different typ and style I found the problem. One of the results was the marine areas such as you pointed out were "nature reserve" color. I did play around with draw order and resolution but found, for now, the least worst solution is to keep, as is. I found that almost all those marine areas, on any of my maps are just sea/ocean. In the case of those island areas near Los Angeles there may be some oil platforms, but I have # all of those sorts of point, lines and poly's in the style sheets, so they won't show up anyway. As I pointed out in my first post, OSM is Euro centered so I've adapted the best I can for US and North America in general given I'm still learning the fine art of osm/mkgmap mapmaking.
I use the default typ and style, earlier various known wilderness/protected areas, on land, did not render at all. After trial and error, a lot, using different typ and style I found the problem. One of the results was the marine areas such as you pointed out were "nature reserve" color. I did play around with draw order and resolution but found, for now, the least worst solution is to keep, as is. I found that almost all those marine areas, on any of my maps are just sea/ocean. In the case of those island areas near Los Angeles there may be some oil platforms, but I have # all of those sorts of point, lines and poly's in the style sheets, so they won't show up anyway. As I pointed out in my first post, OSM is Euro centered so I've adapted the best I can for US and North America in general given I'm still learning the fine art of osm/mkgmap mapmaking.
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General Discussion / Re: New Maps for Canada, US and Mexico
« on: November 05, 2020, 01:45:42 PM »
PopeJ,
The Mt Adams area is both forest and a protected area. It is managed by the US Forest Service. The mountain is classified as a wilderness area while the rest of the Gifford Pinchot Nat Forest is all the way from "primitive" to logging. It's little sister, 40 miles to the west is Mt St Helens, to the east is the Yakima Indian Reservation.
Early on I adopted the green color in my typ, it is/was the color used on many cgpsmapper maps here and my old Garmin 24k maps. Of course the end user can change (with editor) what colors, etc suit them.
Now for me to bow to you. Your maps were the biggest inspiration taking me down the osm/mkgmap rabbit hole. A year or two ago your maps replaced the open andro maps I had on Orux and my gps's and then I moved on from there...I'm kinda biased to another map at the moment though...
Given that there seems to be a just handful of mkgmap mapping mavens I've had to scour the web for answers (as you know there is no one stop shop) and over the past decade you have posted and contributed all over the place, which is what it takes to fill in the blanks about map making. Gmaptool comes in handy too. Thank You sir!
The Mt Adams area is both forest and a protected area. It is managed by the US Forest Service. The mountain is classified as a wilderness area while the rest of the Gifford Pinchot Nat Forest is all the way from "primitive" to logging. It's little sister, 40 miles to the west is Mt St Helens, to the east is the Yakima Indian Reservation.
Early on I adopted the green color in my typ, it is/was the color used on many cgpsmapper maps here and my old Garmin 24k maps. Of course the end user can change (with editor) what colors, etc suit them.
Now for me to bow to you. Your maps were the biggest inspiration taking me down the osm/mkgmap rabbit hole. A year or two ago your maps replaced the open andro maps I had on Orux and my gps's and then I moved on from there...I'm kinda biased to another map at the moment though...
Given that there seems to be a just handful of mkgmap mapping mavens I've had to scour the web for answers (as you know there is no one stop shop) and over the past decade you have posted and contributed all over the place, which is what it takes to fill in the blanks about map making. Gmaptool comes in handy too. Thank You sir!
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General Discussion / Re: New Maps for Canada, US and Mexico
« on: November 02, 2020, 11:18:08 AM »
These are examples of my maps I attached in a previous post, but it appears you need to be registered to view attachments in the forums and for those who choose to not register I finally figured out how to post screenshots for all viewers.
The top image is of part of the Eagle Cap Wilderness and Wallowa Lake in Oregon as viewed in Orux Maps on Android (it isn't blurry in actual viewing)
The bottom image is of Mount Adams in Washington and the surrounded area as viewed in Garmin Basecamp
The top image is of part of the Eagle Cap Wilderness and Wallowa Lake in Oregon as viewed in Orux Maps on Android (it isn't blurry in actual viewing)
The bottom image is of Mount Adams in Washington and the surrounded area as viewed in Garmin Basecamp
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General Discussion / Re: New Maps for Canada, US and Mexico
« on: November 02, 2020, 10:42:06 AM »
First off I'd like to thank those who have download the maps I've created to at least give them a try as part of their digital map quiver.
Last weekend I uploaded mapname.img for all the maps to be sent directly to a device and this is under "Windows", for mapname.gmap which can be used in Basecamp for Windows or Mac those are under "Mac" downloads.
I'm still working on US SouthCentral, SouthEast, the Caribbean and Central America to complete all of North America and hope to have those up soon.
While I'm pleased with the way the maps turned out I feel they could use some "polishing". I'm starting testing on a version 2 which will include road shields (all circles, as the OSM symbols don't always match the actual road, though name is correct), some different road colors, attempt a trimming excess contour lines at borders and some other minor details.
Cheers
Last weekend I uploaded mapname.img for all the maps to be sent directly to a device and this is under "Windows", for mapname.gmap which can be used in Basecamp for Windows or Mac those are under "Mac" downloads.
I'm still working on US SouthCentral, SouthEast, the Caribbean and Central America to complete all of North America and hope to have those up soon.
While I'm pleased with the way the maps turned out I feel they could use some "polishing". I'm starting testing on a version 2 which will include road shields (all circles, as the OSM symbols don't always match the actual road, though name is correct), some different road colors, attempt a trimming excess contour lines at borders and some other minor details.
Cheers
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General Discussion / Re: New Maps for Canada, US and Mexico
« on: October 21, 2020, 04:31:56 PM »
Great Lakes Topo should be working now. My "intervention" somehow deleted the .tdb file the first time around and it's the proper size.
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