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Burrito

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All Topo maps
« on: February 08, 2017, 01:15:33 PM »
I would like to find a way to load my All topo Wyo map set into my New Garmin Oregon 600T
It has 3 map sets 24K, 100K, and 250K I like the idea of having all three. Has anyone had any experience with this software?

Boyd

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Re: All Topo maps
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2017, 08:41:39 AM »
Is this what you're talking about? I don't see where they claim any Garmin compatibility.

http://www.igage.com/atmv7/index.html

That page has a link that says "BigTopo9 exports maps to Garmim" but when you click on it you get a "page not found" error. However I found this: http://www.igage.com/atmv7/ATMGISCAD/ATMGISCAD.html

You could export in a format such as GeoTIFF and use a program like g-raster or mapc2mapc to create a "Garmin Custom Map". But Garmin has intentionally crippled that map format so as not to compete with their own products.

Your Oregon 600 can only access 600 map tiles at 1024x1024 pixels. That will seriously limit the size of any map you make this way.

http://www.the-thorns.org.uk/mapping/
http://moagu.com/?page_id=155

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Re: All Topo maps
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2017, 04:56:24 PM »
If they are USGS topos they will not be very up to date.  IIRC the most recently updated 1:250k was about 1980's vintage, 1:100k was late 1990's, and 1:24k about 2000 or 2001 (unless USGS decided to reinter the map production sector in the past few years).

Boyd

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Re: All Topo maps
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2017, 04:38:04 AM »
(unless USGS decided to reinter the map production sector in the past few years).

Those days are long gone. ;)

https://www2.usgs.gov/faq/categories/9797/7471

"Traditional national mapping programs gathered data from primary sources, including direct field observation. Such maps were compiled, drawn, and edited by hand. In the United States, the era of traditional topographic mapping lasted from about 1880 to about 1990, and was primarily the responsibility of the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS). By today's standards these traditional methods were very expensive, and USGS no longer has either mission or funding to make maps this way."

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Re: All Topo maps
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2017, 03:00:35 PM »
I was hoping I could just copy the maps I have onto a Micro sd card and have that in the GPS as additional map set. I can see now I am way out of my league here.
I did get this link from All Topo support. ?????  I guess I am not allowed that? Go figure. I will concentrate real hard and you can read my mind  ;)

I have not sat down to try it yet. I did not want to create hundreds if not thousands of little maps, to have a wyo map set.  Thanks for the Info. I may have to face the reality that I will have to put out hundreds of more dollars for exactly the same maps I already have in another format.  :P

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Re: All Topo maps
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2017, 03:47:23 PM »
I did get this link from All Topo support. ?????  I guess I am not allowed that? Go figure. I will concentrate real hard and you can read my mind  ;)

Sorry, I  can't read your mind so I have no idea what that means.  ???

I have never heard of "All Topo" before but I looked at their site and tried to answer your question. Sorry if that wasn't what you expected.

If your goal is to get the "Classic" USGS 24k topos on your Oregon, Garmin offers the Birdseye Topo series at $30 for unlimited downloads. This is by far the easiest way to get this kind of map IMO: https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/98816

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Re: All Topo maps
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2017, 04:47:51 PM »
Nice USGS link Boyd.  I was able to attend a local USGS hydro meeting where the head person for the 'project' presented info on the intent and progress of the effort.  Unfortunately my home state was one of the first and used 2007 Census Tiger for the transportation.  The three year refresh seems not to have taken place since as of about two years ago the National Map was still using the 2007 data for transportation.  In the 2007 Tiger files slightly over 1/3 of the counties had NOT undergone spatial realignment.   OSM also used unrealigned TIGER when the seaded it.  Funding has been drastically cut, priorities change and the price for quality is ever increasing, but some of the decisions could have been a lot better and more? efficient.