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General Discussion / Re: Shape Files for Alabama WMA's
« on: March 10, 2011, 12:08:29 PM »
One more thing...forgot to mention.  I think they may have concerns about posting the map files because the WMA system in this state is in constant flux....some is added, some is lost..every year. Leases come and go.    Maybe a disclaimer here about the map being a "rough guide only", at the potential download page, stating this fact could make it possible to get the files.

General Discussion / Re: Shape Files for Alabama WMA's
« on: March 10, 2011, 12:00:29 PM »
Jbensmen, All,

I sent a request to get the whole WMA shapefile.  I generally don't like "splaying private email stuff on public forums, but here is part of her reply:

"Iíll talk to the Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries Division and check with them about sending the file to GPSfiledepot. There may be some concern over changes that may occur with the boundaries in future years."

Guess they gotta cover themselves from possiible lawyer junk, I figure. (Lawyers....don't get me started)  ;D  She also told me that she had "Forever Wild" project land files if she's OK'd to do so.


Thanks for the link.  Got it bookmarked for study. BTW, this lady also sent me a Garmin map making link: http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/mis/gis/tools/arcview/extensions/DNRGarmin/DNRGarmin.html

I have it bookmarked for study too. Thanks.

General Discussion / Re: Shape Files for Alabama WMA's
« on: March 10, 2011, 02:02:53 AM »
I'm fairly new Garmin user.  Most of my experience is with Delorme PN's and Topo 8 software.  I ran those .gdb files through the GPSVisualizer site and converted them to a an.1 extension type file (Delorme Draw layer file)....dragged that booger into Topo and it looked great.  Topo already had boundaries for the WMA I mostly haunt.  This new one was a lot more accurate than the stock Delorme boundaries.  (I used aerial downloads to compare against timber cut lines and place I know the physical boundaries.)


If I can get the lady to email me the shape files of the whole state WMA files I would be more than happy to send them to the Jim Bensmen fellow.  Especially if he can produce a nice overlay for download here.  Would love this map on my 60csx.  How can I get in touch with him? Is he a member here?

General Discussion / Re: Shape Files for Alabama WMA's
« on: March 09, 2011, 11:33:33 AM »
Well, I did like Boyd suggested....opened right up as a series of visible routes in MS.

Honestly, I'm not swooft enough in this area to actually build a map with the data the lady sent.

One of you map makers here made a US "surface management" map.  It shows federal lands as an overlay and is outstanding.   If this lady were to send me a .gdb format file for WMA coverage in the whole state would it be much trouble for you practiced map makers to turn that into something like the US surface management map?  That way, folks interested in hunting public lands could just download in the Alabama tab here?

Also, the lady offered this info in other formats...I requested something a Garmin could use.  Is there a specific format that would be better for making one of your maps?  This stuff is Greek to me. :)

General Discussion / Shape Files for Alabama WMA's
« on: March 09, 2011, 03:09:31 AM »
I'd heard that some states have thier Wildlife Management Area boundaries available for folks to
download.  My state doesn't...so I called to see if it will be available one day.   Discovered that they are working on it.  The lady even offered to email me shape files of all the WMA's in the state.  I only requested the four that I've actually been to.

The files are a "gdb" format.   I'm not a map builder, but I would like to  turn thes shape files she sent and turn them into a transparent map overlay for my Garmin handheld.  How much trouble would it be to go from a GDB file on my Desktop to a transparent map?   Thanks.


I'll compromise with you on the blue dots....how about a blue dot for "every location" "someone" gets hurt and a cop was on the scene, regardless of the offending party?  ;D

I don't care if it's a power-tripping cop or a drug-tripping gangbanger who cracks my skull....I'd like to avoid both.


Red for Homicide
Orange for armed robbery
Pink for rape

The further one zooms out on the map, the more apparent dangerous areas would be.


Perfect.  That is exacly what I was thinking. (the only thing I might add is a blue dot for where a cop had been fired upon) You could tap in a route on the Nuvi, then zoom out to see if you want to drive through  there or not.  Ingrid Cold's link shows almost what I had in mind anyway.

As to the comments about an author getting into some kind of trouble....I just don't see it.  Everybody who is familiar with their local large city are already aware of the bad parts of town.  This idea would be for folks who are not lccals.

It could be done. But make sure you have good legal counsel before posting it.  ;D

Not sure I follow.  Would it be illegal to avoid such parts of town?  If so, then I guess I'm already a felon.   ;D

General Discussion / A new type map idea...transparent "crime area" overlay
« on: February 27, 2011, 03:20:22 PM »
A few times, while travelling, my Nuvi has routed me through parts of cities I did not want to be in.  The Nuvi does not know where the most carjackings/drug dealing/murder, etc goes on.  It just routes you according to it's road data.   In some cities there are places the cops hate to go.

Got to wondering if there would be some way to take government crime statistics and convert that info into a shaded overlay map.  Make it a color.  Red maybe.  Highest crime areas would have more intense color...lighter crime areas the reverse. 

Just an idea.  Wonder how this could be done?

GPSr Units / Re: GPS under $200 and definately under $300
« on: February 19, 2011, 01:39:08 PM »
I know this is a Garmin-centric website, but if you can ignore less than great battery life and smaller screens (compared to Garmins) the Delorme PN's have some sweet map options. You get some freebie downloads with a new unit, but large downloads reguire a $30/year subscription. If your boat has a 12v cigarette outlet, then power would not be a problem.  The PN's have a waterproof power/data connection on back.

You mention coastal charts.  That is one downloadable map option for the Delormes.   I've used all the imagery/map types  from Delorme and have never really had an issue (aside initial learning curve with the Topo software).  Even the NOAA bay charts of Mobile Bay (Alabama).  Everywhere I went in that bay area looked accurate.  The coastal charts even overlap with adjoining ones.  I've mostly used the USGS topo and aerials and aside from age of the imagery, there have been no issues with the maps.

I am trying to choose between the Garmin60CSX, Delorme PN60 and the Oregon 450.
First I need coastal waterways, not more than a few miles offshore. I would like satellite imagery for some hiking.
Could I donwload maps from this website or others? Of course saving money on maps would be nice.
Those are my primary uses. I have another GPS in my cars.
What would be suggested without breaking the bank?

Miami, FL

GPSr Units / Re: New 60csx ... SD cards
« on: February 19, 2011, 01:19:13 PM »
Andy, thanks for the heads up.  I don't go past 4GB's....my own aging brain can't handle more. :)

Hi woodstramp!

In response to your original SDHC question...
Higher on the thread, Indrid mentioned 8GB cards.
I have a 16GB card on my 60CSX and am sure others on the forum do too. A 32GB card would probably work, but where would you get the maps?... LOL...

Just beware of the so-called "sandisk ultra" issue, some people have reported no trouble with Kingston class 4 cards but I am still on class 2.

Warmest wishes,


GPSr Units / Re: New 60csx ... SD cards
« on: February 19, 2011, 01:17:26 PM »
I am a new 60csx owner as well, woodstramp.  I use it every day (to learn it and, admittedly, to just play.)  I love it and it does everything I could ever ask it to.

Mike,  Agreed.  I liked the first 60csx so much I bought two. :)  Well, one's a gift to my future son-in-law. For tromping the woods, I've not used it's equal.  Super long battery life, solidly built,  not buggy and can tell you where even in a deep hollow under heavy tree cover. My only other choice would have been a Delorme PN.  Those have really neat map options (I own a PN), solid build,  and are highly sensitive too. The only trouble is the battery life....and often buggy.

GPSr Units / Re: New 60csx ... SD cards
« on: February 19, 2011, 01:01:10 PM »
Forgot about this old thread.  Just wanted to say that I run a 4GB card and it has more maps than I will probably ever use. 

As to the paperless thing....it can't do real paperless caching, but if you use GSAK and a add-on macro you can load thousands of geocaches as Custom POI's in the card.  It changes the name of the cache to a coded kind of of shorthand to give more info in a short amount of space. Like a part of the name, type, size and even a short hint.  There are lots of threads at Groundspeak about it.

Using The Maps/Garmin Software / Re: Some gmapsupp questions...CN and Topos
« on: February 16, 2011, 11:50:44 AM »
Thanks for the input Boyd. 

If this doesn't  happen (for convience) I'll just have two micro cards.  One CN, one topo.

Got to wondering about how to safely store the extra card when not in use.  Found a way.  A micro SD card fits nicely inside a short bison tube. Just add some padding.  I'll just attach the tube to the 60's  lanyard.

Using The Maps/Garmin Software / Some gmapsupp questions...CN and Topos
« on: February 16, 2011, 03:09:19 AM »
Just bought a used 60csx online.  Lil' booger came with a SD card with CN 09 on it.  I already have one 60csx (and no CN) so I popped the card in and Presto! that card works great on both units. 

Decided that I wanted CN on both GPS units, so I decided to try something.  I copied the card and sent the contents to a fresh SD.  Guess what?....now I have CN on both handhelds.  Outstanding!

I love the topos you guys build here (that's what I've always used on my old 60csx).  Decided it'd be nice to copy the CN mapset to Mapsource so I could make one giant smorgasborg gmapsupp file to burn to my SD card.  That'd be groovy...just turn one CN or Gpsfiledepot topos when needed.   Mapsource would not allow me to copy the CN maps on the SD card.  Said something about unlock code. 

I know from using your topo maps in the past that the map files are sent to one gmapsupp file.  You can build a combo of whatever maps are in Mapsource, but when you send a new mapset, the previous one is erased.  Is there a way to  have CN and your topos on one card?

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