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#1
Quote from: -Oz- on April 11, 2009, 11:25:21 PM
uploaded setup file; converting to mac and uploading that tonight.  Added images and the text data to the page.

Perfect!  Thanks.
#2
Quote from: -Oz- on April 03, 2009, 07:30:36 AM
Stoaty,

Finally had enough HDD space to work on an installer.  Which one of these should I be using Sierra Topo or Sierra South; they both have the same FID so they can't both be installed at the same time...

Just got back from a week in Arizona.

Sierra Topo is fine.  I must have used Sierra South at one point, but changed back to Sierra Topo.  Also it would be nice if you can make available for viewing the jpeg and the text listing of included quads, so people don't have to download to see exactly which quads are covered.
#3
Quote from: -Oz- on March 13, 2009, 10:24:54 PM
I'll make installers when I get back to the internet.

Thanks!  Upload is complete, zip file available for download.

--John
#4
Map Making Support / Uploading Raster Topo of Sierra
March 13, 2009, 07:02:58 PM
OK, my promised raster topo of the Sierra is being uploaded as we speak.

Oz, would you create installers please?  There are a couple of additional files in the zip file:

1) A Microsoft Word document listing all of the quads included in the set
2) A jpeg showing graphically all of the quads included in the set

Hoping you can make these files available for download from the page so anyone downloading can see exactly what is covered.

Here is the description I will post once uploaded:

"1:24000 raster topo map of the Sierra Nevada primarily of interest to hikers and backpackers.  Created by John Hollenberg with Moagu and data downloaded from scanned topos from the USGS seamless server.  The raster topo exactly matches paper topo maps and printed maps created with National Geographic Topo, making it very easy to find your exact position on the paper topo by visually matching the shapes of the contour lines at your location. 

The area covered extends from the Golden Trout Wilderness in the South to Yosemite and the Emigrant Wilderness in the North.  The map is comprised of 120  7.5 minute quads and covers over 6,000 square miles.  There is a text file below listing all of the quads included in the map, and an overview map showing all of the quads in their proper position.

Note:  Since the entire map is approximately 3 GB, only about 2/3 of it will fit on one micro SD card.  If you want to carry the whole map with you, the only way to do this is to put it on two micro SD cards (with some overlap so you will never be at the edge).

This map will take time to load both in MapSource and your Garmin GPS units.  The map is slower than normal vector maps and only visible when zoomed in to 0.5mi + on highest detail.  The map is optimally viewed at 500ft zoom."

Enjoy!  I will be using the topo map during several summer backpacking trips.

--John
#5
Installed fine for me on Windows Vista SP1.  I installed it directly from Mapsource using "Check for Updates" from the Help Menu.

--John
#6
Quote from: -Oz- on February 15, 2009, 10:39:15 AM
Changed.

John, you also can modify the text however you want;

Oops.  Forgot about that.  Sorry :-)

--John
#7
Oz,

Just a note that you may want to add to the download page for the Joshua Tree and Coyote Buttes raster topos:

"The topos are created for the 500 feet zoom level and are optimally viewed at that level."

Thanks.

PS I am working on a 90 quad raster topo map of the Sierra for hikers/backpackers.  It will cover the quads of interest to those exploring the Sierra, and extends from about Kennedy Meadows in the South to Yosemite in the North.  Expected date of completion is 4-8 weeks, depending on my energy level.  All of the data has been downloaded, and about 10 quads have been edited in Photoshop and processed. 

--John
#8
I would ask Leszek, author of MOAGU these questions.  He is probably in the best postion to give an accurate answer.  However, I think he is pretty busy for the next week or so and may not respond to emails immediately.
#10
A couple of notes for Oz to add/correct:

1) I saw one typo I made:  "For California, be look on the right side".  The "be" should be deleted.

2) I would add the following new paragarph to the end of the introduction: "Another limitation of the raster maps created with MOAGU is that when zooming in very rapidly my Garmin occasionally crashed (3 times during an all day hike).  This caused no harm to the Garmin or the data I was recording.  Leszek has seen this also.  Presumably it is due to a subtle bug in the Garmin firmware.  I'm not sure whether it has been reported, but I doubt Garmin would be interested in fixing a bug that would potentially decrease sales of their own maps.  The workaround is simple--don't zoom immediately after zooming.  The problem usually happened when zooming a split second after the previous zoom.  I found that holding the zoom button down until close to the 500 foot zoom level didn't create the problem, so I could easily and quickly get to the approximate zoom level I needed."

3) To the end of the "Plan Your Maps" section I would add the following sentence:  "For an upcoming map of the Southern Sierra I am working on (all in the California database) I decided to make my segments with the same coordinates as existing USGS quad maps and give each downloaded segment the same name.  This will make it easier to load one topo, and the fact that after re-projection the segments are about 70 megapixels means they are close to the optimal size"

4) Move the sentence "Missing tiles are due to either a bug in MOAGU or a problem with cgsmapper (haven't pinned it down yet)." to the top of the section "Check Map in MapSource for Missing Tiles and Reprocess as Needed".  This will make it clearer why you are checking for missing tiles.

5) You may want to add the caveat you put on the Coyote Buttes Raster Topo page to the Joshua Tree Raster Topo page:  "The map is slower than normal vector maps and only visible when zoomed in to 0.5mi + on highest detail."
#11
Just a note to let you know that Oz posted my tutorial on "Creating Multi-Segment Raster Topo Maps with Moagu":

http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/creating-multi-segment-raster-topo-maps-with-moagu/

Comments, additions or corrections welcome.

--John
#12
Quote from: -Oz- on February 08, 2009, 09:44:06 PM
Your tutorial posted: http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/creating-multi-segment-raster-topo-maps-with-moagu/

Thanks!  A beautiful formatting job.

A couple of notes:

1) I saw one typo I made:  "For California, be look on the right side".  The "be" should be deleted.

2) I would add the following new paragarph to the end of the introduction: "Another limitation of the raster maps created with MOAGU is that when zooming in very rapidly my Garmin occasionally crashed (3 times during an all day hike).  This caused no harm to the Garmin or the data I was recording.  Leszek has seen this also.  Presumably it is due to a subtle bug in the Garmin firmware.  I'm not sure whether it has been reported, but I doubt Garmin would be interested in fixing a bug that would potentially decrease sales of their own maps.  The workaround is simple--don't zoom immediately after zooming.  The problem usually happened when zooming a split second after the previous zoom.  I found that holding the zoom button down until close to the 500 foot zoom level didn't create the problem, so I could easily and quickly get to the approximate zoom level I needed."

3) Move the sentence "Missing tiles are due to either a bug in MOAGU or a problem with cgsmapper (haven't pinned it down yet)." to the top of the section "Check Map in MapSource for Missing Tiles and Reprocess as Needed".  This will make it clearer why you are checking for missing tiles.

4) You may want to add the caveat you put on the Coyote Buttes Raster Topo page to the Joshua Tree Raster Topo page:  "The map is slower than normal vector maps and only visible when zoomed in to 0.5mi + on highest detail."

That's it!  Thanks.

--John
#13
Thanks,  I wondered how that could be, since it looks fine here.

--John
#14
As far as I can tell, the colors are the same for this map as for the Joshua Tree map.  I thought I might have mistakenly processed as a Grayscale image (Moagu option), but on looking at the completed map in Mapsource I see red lines and blue streams, just as the original TIFF file shows.  The index (#4) for the lines shows RGB 131,66,37 in the TIFF files from both Joshua Tree and Coyote Buttes.  There may have been something different about the TYP file I used to process, but I don't think so.  It may be a matter of perception, as the colors (for both Joshua Tree and Coyote Buttes) look a bit different to me at night than they did during the day.  If I get more info, will let you know.

--John
#15
I didn't think it was black and white.  Will have to check and make sure I didn't make an error processing.  Will let you know.

--John