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Thx for the reply.  (apologies for my post if not appropo here)

I may try Garmin but want to try to ask some fellow users first since in the past they were always more help, will try some other forums I found yesterday in addition to the one you mentioned.

Cheers 

P.S. The reasons I did not like Garmin Express were because:
(1) It installed memory resident software that started up on bootup without telling me (for something that I only use every couple years I most certainly was not happy upon discovering that & had to then take steps to remove it)...
and
(2) Using it for updating my nuvi took something like 6 hours to complete.

I used to belong to gpsreview.net forums and the folks there helped me figure some things out over the years, but trying to go there again now that website appears to be kaput 

I then searched for "gpsreviews" hoping maybe it had just changed names or something but actually found a reference to that forum here https://forums.gpsfiledepot.com/index.php?topic=4928.0 by Boyd, and sounds like that website is no more, so thought I'd trying asking a dumb question or two here...

I have a numi 1350 that I haven't updated in awhile (but have a need to now; it came with "lifetime updates" btw).  I never liked the Garmin Express updater and instead thx to help from folks on gpsreviews got turned onto a simple program called GarminMapUpdater.exe that I used with no problems but that was 5 years ago that I last used it.  I uninstalled Garmin Express many years ago....

Trying GarminMapUpdater2 now it no longer works (gives error msg of not being able to find the server or something similar; I guess Garmin shut that off).

What are my options to update maps for my nuvi now?? 

Thanks for any help.