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i got it, it was AVG 8.5 GIVING THE TROUBLE unistalled it works just fine now, thanks for all your help >>>>>

OZ, nothing will download, jimbob tryed that too,i will try firefox, thanks for your input

man i shut everything down, still no go,i guess i will save it to a cd on my other computer and load it from that, that downloads fine with XP, must be some kind of security thing

the window gos away,i tryed it both ways saveing it and running it, its funny when i direct it to a folder i want it into it still says its saving it to the temp folder but its not there,i know its downloading it takes about 10 min,but if its saved on this computer i don;t know where looked all over,

running explorer,tryed what you said, i can see the files download but they just go away, i tryed puting it in other folders,it just is not there,and when i try to direct it to a folder it says its going to temp folder, but its not there its crazy, some people say its AVG i turn it off,fire wall is off,its like it gets deleted some how. i have AVG 8.5.

loaded from the site,windows, no trouble with my other computer that has XP, SEARCHED the net they could be this and that, i tryed turning off all fire walls, still gets lost,

no i see my blue chart, i made a new folder and downloaded to that still went somwhere else,

Thanks for the fast reply, i know how to load the map to the gps, i can't find the file or it will not run from the down load, with window xp i could just save it in a folder and run it, but with this vista just can't find the file and when i save can't seem to find it ! i thought i could run it and it would load to mapsorce, am i doing somthing wrong,

i hate vista every time i try to down load somthing i can;t find it, trying to down load NJ TOPO, i have garmin mapsorce all ready loaded and have city nav NT, i downloaded the file can't find it,i tryed running it, i thought it would run and find the garmin folder, any help,,