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Title: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: -Oz- on February 04, 2010, 09:11:43 PM
We have a tutorial that will show you how to load maps on your Garmin GPS with either a PC or a Mac; click here to see the tutorial (http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-load-maps-on-my-garmin-gps-unit//).

If the map you're downloading doesn't have an easy installer you can use this tutorial (http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-load-.img-files-into-mapsource-with-mapsettoolkit/) to load the maps into MapSource/Basecamp.  Note: you cannot use this tutorial for the OSM routable maps.
Title: Map Selection Improvements GPSMAP 62 & GPSMAP 78
Post by: Indrid Cold on September 04, 2010, 07:39:09 AM
Might be worth reading the following if you have one of these units:

http://garmin.blogs.com/softwareupdates/2010/09/map-selection-improvements.html
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on September 04, 2010, 08:55:08 AM
This is the same system already used on the Colorado, Dakota, Oregon and the newest Nuvi models. Unfortunately, it isn't completely backward-compatible with mapsets created in mapsource that contain multiple products. So if you used mapsource to make a single gmapsupp.img file for your 60csx, that will not behave properly on any of these new units. You will only be able to turn all of the maps in that file on/off at the same time. You will not be able to select individual maps within the file.

The solution is to create new files which only contain one "product" each. But there may even be some glitches there with home-made maps. For example, if you use Sendmap20 to create a map file and name it NYtopo.img, then use Sendmap20 to create another file named TXtopo.img, these maps will have a generic name "Maps uploaded by Sendmap20" on the GPS. And the GPS will group them together, even though they are in separate files. So you cannot individually enable them on the GPS, they can only be globally enabled as a group.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Indrid Cold on September 04, 2010, 09:08:20 AM
Then it doesn't sound like much of an issue unless you are using SendMap20. Maybe they'll have to update that software.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on September 04, 2010, 12:01:16 PM
I think the unit just groups everything with the same FID together regardless of what file the map is in.

But having mulitple maps in gmapsupp.img is something else. They will need to be separated into individual files.

I noticed something else the other day about multiple map files. The "receive from device" command in mapsource will only recognize maps in the gmapsupp.img file. So if you have separated all of your maps into different files and given them names, you can't use mapsource to read them back in. You would have to rename each file to gmapsupp.img to do that.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: -Oz- on September 04, 2010, 11:23:13 PM
sounds like they are just making what we already do manually easier
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on September 05, 2010, 04:41:08 AM
Yes, I think this is a big improvement. It will just take some adjustment for those who are new to these models and have a collection of maps in a format that will need tweaking.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: hawk on December 26, 2010, 11:33:41 AM
In the tutorial step #9 for Base Camp it says all maps will be erased. Dose that mean all previously loaded maps will be erased as it says or am I missing somthing. Why would I want to do that?
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on December 26, 2010, 12:29:05 PM
What model GPS do you have? The new ones are a little different. But until recently, Garmin GPS units would only recognize one map filename - gmapsupp.img - and that is the name of the file that either Basecamp or Mapsource sends to your unit. When you send a new map, it replaces the existing gmapsupp.img file on the GPS with a new one containing the map(s) you have chosen.

It doesn't erase the maps that are installed on your computer, just the ones stored on the GPS. That's just the way it works. On older units, if you want to install more than one map, you must use the selection tool to choose sections of all the different maps you want, then send them all together. They will be bundled into a single gmapsupp.img file and sent to your GPS, replacing whatever maps were there before.

The newest models are a little more flexible, which is why I asked what you're using.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: hawk on December 26, 2010, 03:38:06 PM
I just got a 78s.Have not loaded anything on it as yet.It sounds like if I had two or three different hunting areas(maps) on a sd card in the device,loaded a new map of a different area,all my maps would (except) the newest one would be gone. This is not at all good and dosn't even sound right.Surely you can have more than "one" map on this device.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on December 26, 2010, 04:54:46 PM
On older units, using mapsource you select the portions of *each* map that you want first (by choosing them one at a time and highlighting the areas you want). Then you send it all to the GPS together.

On your new model, you have more options. Send your first map to the gps, then look in its \Garmin folder and find gmapsupp.img. Change the name to something descriptive, like huntingmap.img. Now send the next map and repeat as needed. Your 78s can recognize multiple map files (up to something like a total of 14 maps).

This is a relatively new thing for Garmin. You need to realize that they pretty much pioneered all this stuff, and they went in their own direction using 1990's technology. Old habits die hard I guess, and it's taken them a long time to change their way of doing things. In the old days, you didn't have enough memory in a GPS to even need to worry about multiple map.

Maybe you would be happier with a unit from Magellan?  ;D
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: hawk on December 26, 2010, 05:21:24 PM
So you can have more than one map on the 78s correct? This comment in step #9 is referencing some older units?
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: maps4gps on December 26, 2010, 07:48:49 PM
Correct.  I have not heard of a total of 14 maps before.  A post (on the groundspeak forums ?) said 10 on the GPSr and 10 on the micro memory card.  I tested this and had no problems with 17 seperate mapsets on the micro memory card and Garmin's basemap on my OR300's internal memory.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on December 27, 2010, 07:31:57 AM
I don't know what the limit is and haven't tried, I read about the 14 in a post at Groundspeak I think. For most people, it won't be an issue.

Actually #9 is correct with any Garmin unit if you just follow the standard procedure. Basecamp/Mapsource always generate a file named gmapsupp.img. So unless you have manually renamed that file, it will be automatically erased whenever you send a new map. If you rename the map after uploading, then you can avoid the problem on your unit.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on January 07, 2011, 07:46:47 AM
There are links in the first post of this thread that describe how to load the map. Yes, it must first be installed on your computer. You cannot connect the GPS directly to the internet.

If you really have a hard time with this kind of thing, and you don't care if the maps are on your computer, then just buy one of the *real* Garmin products that comes on a data card. All you will need to do is plug that into the GPS, and you'll be good to go. And if you do have any problems, Garmin support will help you.

You could get either Topo US 100K, which covers the entire US, or one of the regional 24k topo's for your area. The 24k topo's have roads and POI's like the City Navigator maps on the Nuvi, so they can be used to give driving directions and find gas stations, stores and restaurants. The 100k topo's will only display your position on the map and cannot do those things.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: maps4gps on January 07, 2011, 10:46:21 AM
Ibycus has not posted here; OZ has included his mapsets as a courtesy.
He does post in the Canada section of forums.groundspeak.com.  Many posters there use his Canada Topo mapset and could better answer specific question about it.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Stormstaff on January 10, 2011, 11:16:48 AM
If this is the wrong thread to post this, I'm sorry. Feel free to have a mod move it.

I loaded City Navigator on my Oregon 450 and everything worked. I then downloaded and installed My Trails & an Illinois topo from here. Once I installed these on my unit, CN has "disappeared" from the unit under where I enable/disable the maps at.

Will reloading CN onto the unit fix this or am I starting a vicious circle because I need to rename a file or something?

Thanks for your help and time!

Kirk
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: maps4gps on January 10, 2011, 12:14:48 PM
If you loaded CN from the DVD and did not change the gmapsupp.img file name to another .img file name (which MapSource and BaseCamp uses when they send data to the GPSr), then you have overwritten any existing gmapsupp.img file on the GPSr or micro memory card.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Stormstaff on January 10, 2011, 03:40:36 PM
Ok, I'll just clear the unit and start over, renaming the files as I load them on. Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: maps4gps on January 10, 2011, 03:56:03 PM
Correct.  That is the easy way to do it on the newer units which support such filenames.

Otherwise, you select some or all quads/tiles from one mapset, then do the same for any/all additional mapsets, finally sending them all to the GPSr/micro memory card in a single gmapsupp.img file.  That is the only way to put more than one mapset on the older GPSr units.
The downside is that the gmapsupp.img file needs to be rebuilt every time you want to add/change/delete a quad or mapset. 
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on January 10, 2011, 06:52:20 PM
Otherwise, you select some or all quads/tiles from one mapset, then do the same for any/all additional mapsets, finally sending them all to the GPSr/micro memory card in a single gmapsupp.img file.

Interestingly, this does not work correctly on some of the newest models. I tried it on the Nuvi 3790, and the whole bundle of maps could only be turned on/off as a group. In other words, I could not enable/disable individual maps inside the gmapsupp.img container.

Not sure about the Oregon because I've never tried sending it a bundle in one file.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Seldom on January 10, 2011, 07:28:07 PM
If I send a gmapsupp.img with 6 or 8 map sections to my OR300, and rename it mymap5.img and I have mymap1.img....mymap4.img in the Garmin folder on my microSD card, I'll only be able to turn mymap5.img on or off as a single map.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: jtkt1981 on January 10, 2011, 08:01:55 PM
Huh?   I have an OR200 and one of the IMG files I loaded on my microSD card consists of tiles from 4 different maps.  They can each be enabled independently just fine.  I just powered up and checked to make sure.  But I agree that the best approach on the Oregon units is to give each map a separate IMG filename.  That way I only create them once and drag the ones needed to the memory card....instead of re-creating the file in Mapsource.  That is what I've done when I've added additional maps from this site....made each a separate file. 
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Seldom on January 10, 2011, 09:16:33 PM
What's the IMG file called?  gmapsupp? And what's your software version? My OR300 is running Software Version 4.10 and GPS software version 4.52, and like I said above, all my multi tile mapsets may be listed on the enable/disable button, but they all are enabled or disabled at once.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on January 11, 2011, 02:48:29 AM
Interesting. Probably a "feature" of the newer firmware.  Garmin really makes it confusing these days with inconsistent behavior across their models. I have read that the 62 series also behaves like this and won't work correctly if you send a bundle of maps in a single gmapsupp.img container.

And here's another good one. On the Nuvi 3790, if I put a file named gmapsupp.img in the \Garmin folder, it is ignored. If I put it in the \Map folder it works as expected. I think all of the newest nuvi models will be like this as well. They have moved the pre-installed gmapprom.img file to an invisible folder called .System and all user-installed maps must be in the \Map folder.

I guess they don't see any need for compatibility between their handheld and automotive units anymore.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Stormstaff on January 11, 2011, 07:16:42 AM
I loaded CN on my 450 and then renamed it and then followed with IL topo & My Trails, renaming each after loading them. I can turn them on/off independently. Working great at the moment.

Thanks for the info/help!
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: jtkt1981 on January 11, 2011, 07:52:19 AM
What's the IMG file called?  gmapsupp? And what's your software version? My OR300 is running Software Version 4.10 and GPS software version 4.52, and like I said above, all my multi tile mapsets may be listed on the enable/disable button, but they all are enabled or disabled at once.
That file is called gmapsup2.img.  That was one of the first ones I created when I got the unit...before I realized the flexibility allowed with the filenames.  I have 5 other img files on the memory card.  Most have more descriptive names like TopoOverlay.img.  I'm on SW ver 4.00 and GPS ver 4.52.  I know there are more recent ones, but I'm waiting for most of the new bugs to be caught and fixed.  This version has been very stable for my usage.
This "bundle" mapset is the only one I'm using that has tiles from multiple maps.  If I created it over, I would make them separate.  If for no other reason than remembering which maps are in the file.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: newfydog on February 08, 2011, 02:16:14 PM
Send your first map to the gps, then look in its \Garmin folder and find gmapsupp.img. Change the name to something descriptive, like huntingmap.img. Now send the next map and repeat as needed. Your 78s can recognize multiple map files (up to something like a total of 14 maps).

Thanks Boyd!  You really are a hero, and that solved a problem which has tormented me for awhile.

I just found this site, and it thought looked like a good one.  I loaded the Oregon Topo, and it worked far better than any software I ever bought from Garmin.  I'll be here a lot it looks like.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: rs on March 10, 2011, 01:46:13 AM
Hello to everyone! I'm new here and come from Spain.

I have carefully read and successfully installed *.img files into MapSource and Garmin GPS. I did both things with my PC using the reference (http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-load-.img-files-into-mapsource-with-mapsettoolkit/). In fact it was almost automatic.

I also have a Mac. I could manage to load these maps into my Garmin GPS using the “equivalent” MapInstall, but I am not able to install them into the BaseCamp on my Mac computer. Does anybody know how to do it? Is it not possible?
Thanks and regards,

Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on March 10, 2011, 06:28:34 AM
If your map already works in Mapsource/Basecamp on the PC, then this is very simple: http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/MapSource_TransferringMapProductsfromaPCtoaMacComputer.pdf
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: mpetrof on April 16, 2011, 05:53:56 PM
Your instructions for loading maps ultimate led me to Garmin's site for MapSource. But that only allowed downloads of updates.  I still don't know how to get MapSource itself!

Is it even possible to use some of the free maps out there without buying something with MapSource from Garmin?
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: mpetrof on April 16, 2011, 06:13:53 PM
I'm replying to my own post!  Dumbo - I just had to follow the instructions.

Actually it was searching posts and finding the instructions to load Training Center first that finally got through to my brain: Step 1, then step 2.

I'm finally making progress.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on April 18, 2011, 10:27:42 AM
Actually that tutorial is out of date. Today, the best way to do this is to first install Basecamp: http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4435

After doing that, install Mapsource. The reason that you got the error in the first place is that Mapsource wants to see a Garmin map on your computer or it won't install. Installing Basecamp will provide that, without the need to install Training Center which is something that you will probably never need.

But as long as you got it working, it's all good. :)
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: CHADSPERRY on April 27, 2011, 01:12:15 PM
I am new to this process and am having trouble, I downloaded the Illinois topo file and installed it.  The problem is the maps do not appear in the drop down list in MapSource or BaseCamp, the Illinois Topo data comes with an installer, so I do not think I need to go use MapSetToolkit and cgpsmapper.  How do I get my software to recognize these maps?

Thanks!
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on May 04, 2011, 01:37:13 PM
Did you try quitting Mapsource and restarting it?
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: imgoing2eat on June 10, 2011, 07:08:47 PM
I am new to this also. I just bought a 450t on sale. I have followed the instructions and installed mapsource on my pc. I downloaded and installed a bunch of the maps available here for midwest region. I transferred a few of the maps to a 4 gb micro sd card but I can't see the same thing I see on mapsource. I checked the map selection screen and I have all the options to enable the maps but when I look at the map in my 450t it doesn't look like it is working. The whole process looks like it is working correctly. Why can't I see the maps on my 450T? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on June 11, 2011, 04:04:25 AM
Don't quite understand what you are doing. Mapsource cannot "see" maps on a memory card, it can only access maps that you have installed on your computer.

Whenever you send a map to a memory card, it replaces the one you previously send. This is because Mapsource always names the file gmapsupp.img for compatibility with older units. To get around this, manually change the filename from gmapsupp.img to somethingelse.img. Your Oregon will recognize any file with a .img extension if it's in the Garmin folder on a card. Now you can send another map with Mapsource and repeat this procedure as needed.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: imgoing2eat on June 11, 2011, 10:52:12 PM
I meant that when viewing the maps on the mapsource app I understand what the maps are supposed to look like. When I load it onto my sd card and plug into my oregon it doesn't look like any of the maps are working. I can see that mapsource transferred the files over to the memory card because I can see the gmapsupp.img file. I can also see the map selections in the oregon that are available to enable or disable. Everything is enabled but it just looks blank on the oregon map screen.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: maps4gps on June 12, 2011, 04:31:37 AM
Did you zoom-in to the 2 mile display level or greater in an area you sent to the GPSr?

Try sending some quads/tiles from one mapset and pan to that location if it does not include your current location.

Are you using a profile?  You may have a profile active which does not include the mapset(s).
Try the 'recreational' profile.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Piasor on August 06, 2011, 05:30:03 PM
Have Garmin Oregon 220 and Win7 x-64 based PC.  Downloaded/installed Base Camp, MapSource, and PA topo.  Topo installed but not visible in either BC or MS.  Downloaded installed MapSetToolKit: It only opens through WinZip.  (I also see a .cfg file I can't access and asks what program I want to use to open it.)  Downloaded and installed cgpsmapper.  When running MapSetToolKit, the IMG files show, but the cgpsmapper/cpreview folder is greyed out and there is no cursor. I consider myself pretty computer literate, but it's not all coming together.  Seems to be no relationship between BC, MS, MSTK, or cgpsmapper.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Seldom on August 06, 2011, 05:38:22 PM
This problem has been reported several times on Win7-64 systems.  While the cause is not understood, downloading and installing a copy of My Trails ( http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/53 ) normally fixes it.  Note that My Trails is a transparent map and the trails will show up only at zooms of 7 miles or lower.  Depending on how much detail they show, transaparent maps aren't easy to use in MapSource/BaseCamp.  However they will overlay another detailed map (a topo for example) and show both maps details.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: nico3d on September 01, 2011, 01:17:05 AM
HI, I'm following this tutorial How To Load .img Files Into MapSource With MapSetToolkit
But on Step four I keep getting the following message for all my files :

"cannot find file or the filename is not composed always from 8 digits"

What is that supposed to mean? The .img files ARE 8 digits and I'm pointing to the right folder....

I'm clueless

Any help will be appreciated.


Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on September 01, 2011, 04:49:17 AM
What files are you trying to load? Is it a map from this site. If so, this is almost never needed since most maps include a custom installer. Instead, this simple tutorial is all that is normally needed: http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-open-maps-in-mapsource/
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: MountainWoods on May 05, 2013, 03:01:31 PM
Howdy!  I've had my eTrex 20 for almost a year, and I just found this site.  I downloaded the Missouri Topo, motopo11, and ran the installer on my Windows XP PC.  When I went into BaseCamp, there was the topo in the Product Selection.  Wow!  So much more detailed than the topos that I already had (from my earlier eTrex Legend days).  Great!

Then I followed the directions in the tutorial and sent the motopo11 map, using Garmin's Map Installer, to my eTrex 20.  It said that the map was installed successfully, and I see the motop11.img file on the unit in the Garmin directory.

However, when I go to the map setup on the eTrex 20, this map is not listed.  I scroll down through the maps and all I get is:
______________________
Enabled - US Topo - East
US Topo
______________________
Enabled - US Topo - East 2
US Topo
______________________
Enabled - US Topo - West
US Topo
______________________
Enabled - US Topo - West 2
US Topo
______________________

That is all there is.  Can't scroll down below that.  I even tried Disabling both of the East topos to see if it would show the new map, but no go.

Since the map was free, I guess I could remove the 208MB motop11.img file on the device to free up space.  But I'd like to see if there isn't a way to actually get to use it on the device.  I am enjoying it in BaseCamp.  But 'twould also be nice on the unit, if possible.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: MountainWoods on May 05, 2013, 03:27:57 PM
AHHH.  I found it.  It doesn't say so in the tutorial (because the Garmin units are so very different, as has been stated earlier), but I needed to rename the motopo11.img to gmapsupp.img that has been mentioned multiple times here.
That means that the eTrex 20 only recognizes one "supplemental" map at a time, unlike some of the more costly units.

That's only a minor annoyance (with the device, not this site!), because it means that if I cross into a different state, I have to hook the eTrex 20 up to the computer and download that state's topo map into the GPSr and rename it to gmapsupp.img.  Or just continue to use the less-detailed topos that came with the unit when outside of the current gmapsupp.img territory.   :P

Odd thing is that the name of the new map wasn't Missouri Topo or anything like that, but: Dyersburg (w), Sikeston, Cape Girardeau.  Apparently that is the description that was used in the meta data for this wonderful map by whosumever made it.
Thanks for the great map!!
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Seldom on May 05, 2013, 04:14:34 PM
Not sure why you're having this problem.  An Etrex20 isn't a cheap unit.  I own an Etrex30.  The only difference between the 20 and 30 I'm aware of is the compass and altimeter.  To test out your gmapsupp.img theory, I sent -Oz-'s Arizona Topo to the card on my E30.  I've now got two IMG files in the Garmin folder on the card.  They are named Arizona Topo.img and DesertSouthwest.img.  They are the only maps on the GPSr, except the basemap, and they are both selectable from the "Select Maps" page of the Setup Map dialog.

Just curious: the Topo East, Topo East 2, Topo West, and Topo West 2.  Where'd you get them?
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: MountainWoods on May 05, 2013, 04:23:44 PM
I originally had an old eTrex Legend that camp with those rudimentary topos.  Come to think of it.  There were 4 of them (East, West, Alaska, and Hawaii), but I don't see either Alaska or Hawaii in the list, even though MapInstall shows them as being on my eTrex 20.

I just put a new, formatted MicroSD card in my 20 and, from BaseCamp, I right clicked the SD card and did an Install Maps on SD Card, which brought up Garmin's MapInstall.  It successfully downloaded the motop11.img file to the SD card (in the Garmin directory).  Then I did an Eject on the GPSr, restarted it, and sure 'nuff - NO mention of anything but those old topos I brought over from the Legend in the Map Setup.

I haven't done it yet, but I'll bet that if I rename the motopo11.img file on the SD card to gmapsupp.img, then the Missouri topo will show up (with the odd name).
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: maps4gps on May 05, 2013, 04:44:00 PM
Unless you tell it otherwise, Garmin's software will use some of theselected quad/tile/segment names to identify the mapset; in this case 'Dyersburg (w), Sikeston, Cape Girardeau'.

Those 'old' Garmin topos might be causing a problem.  Try changing the .img extension to something other than .img.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: MountainWoods on May 05, 2013, 05:34:54 PM
...  Edited: The following may be related to having old eTrex Legend topo maps on an eTrex 20, which was causing multiple issues.

I don't know if it is related, but there have been times when I've downloaded 32 geocaches, but only 17 of them showed up on the unit.  I remember deliberately driving to a different location to see if it was only showing the nearest 17 of the 32, but it still didn't show the closest GCs.  I plugged the unit back in and BaseCamp showed that there were 32 GCs on the eTrex 20.  But try as one might, the unit itself would not show all 32.

Ever since then, I've only ever downloaded about 16 GCs at a time.  I'm always envious when I hear other folks talk about downloading a Pocket Query full of GCs - like 200 - to go geocaching.  My eTrex 20 could never do that.  It'd show 200 of them on the unit when plugged into BaseCamp, but no where near that many on the unit alone.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: maps4gps on May 05, 2013, 06:35:41 PM
The AK & HI no show issue should be taken to Garmin's tech support as it involves their mapsets on their GPSr. 
It may have something to do with transferring those files from your older Legend.  Do you have Garmin source CD's for those maps?

Garmin does not recognize independent map authors and will not talk to you about the MO topo mapset.

As Seldom mentioned, the ability to recognize other user map file names than gmapsupp.img
has nothing to do with Etrex20 versus Etrex30.  It began with the Colorado models and all since than have that capability.

If those older topo files are not causing the issue, perhaps you have a defective unit.
Do you have the latest firmware/software for the Etrex20?

Doesn't MapInstall allow you to select from additional mapsets before sending to the GPSr?
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: MountainWoods on May 05, 2013, 08:59:51 PM
FYI, you were probably right the first time.  There is some bad aura about those original eTrex Legend topos.  I finally ignored them and downloaded 6 topos of states that I'm interested in (for now) from this wonderful site, and the eTrex 20 was able to display all 6 of them in the Setup Map --> Select Map page.  Since I'm a little skeptical, I'll probably download a 7th map and see what happens.

Thanks for all of your help.  Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: MountainWoods on May 07, 2013, 07:33:25 AM
Just wanted to say that I think this site is absolutely wonderful!  You have been extremely helpful.  And of course, the value of the maps is priceless.   Keep up the excellent work.

BTW, for other folks affected, the old eTrex Legend topos do cause troubles with an eTrex 20 (and perhaps others).  Since I took them off my GPSr, the unit comes up faster and responds to requests (such as zoom in and zoom out, etc.) faster.

To avoid issues with Garmin's MapInstall program deleting existing maps before re-installing old and install new maps, here is what I do:

(You may want to copy/paste those UNIX shell commands into shell scripts located somewhere in your command PATH to avoid a lot of typing.)
This is a bit of a pain, but it saves gobs of time when installing new maps.  I have been doing this several times now and it works great.

Of course, if you download all the maps you want/need and install them en masse it'll also save effort, because you don't have to keep doing the above for each set.  ;)
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on May 07, 2013, 12:14:35 PM
BTW, for other folks affected, the old eTrex Legend topos do cause troubles with an eTrex 20 (and perhaps others).  Since I took them off my GPSr, the unit comes up faster and responds to requests (such as zoom in and zoom out, etc.) faster.

Glad you got everything working. I understand why startup is faster, but I don't understand the part about zooming faster. I think the only way the old topo could affect map redraw speed would be if you had it enabled along with another map. It might be the case that these maps automatically became grouped with another map and therefore enabled however.

There's another issue to keep in mind. On my Montana and Oregon, whenever I did a firmware update, the next time I started the GPS up every map became enabled in every profile. This is a real nuisance, because you have to manually go into each profile and disable the maps you don't want. If a bunch of maps covering the same area are enabled, the GPS will respond very slowly.

I actually have a theory about your map install problems, knowing that you have been using the old topo maps. Garmin's old 100k topo is built with very small tiles since devices with tiny amounts of memory were common then. IIRC, the whole US has about 6600 segments. But your eTrex (and all recent handhelds) can only access 4000 map segments. So if you installed a large part of that old topo, you may have passed the segment limit.

When you go beyond the segment limit, you will get the exact behavior you described - some maps or portions of some maps will not work. Garmin says it is hard to predict what will go wrong when you have too many segments because it depends on exactly what is loaded on your GPS.

You could check how many segments you have installed in Mapsource using the map tool. The total should appear in the left window pane. You have to be sure to stay below 4000 total. This has nothing to do with the size of a memory card - the 100k topo is only about 3gb.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: MountainWoods on May 07, 2013, 01:12:41 PM
Boy, I haven't used MapSource in a year.  I didn't realize that the maps I'd downloaded from GPSFileDepot would also show in there, but it makes sense in hindsight!

Sure enough, from the old Legend topos, just the eastern US contains 2563 sections -- which were split in half as US Topo - East and US Topo - East 2 when I went to BaseCamp.   Here's what I was trying to stuff into the eTrex 20 (without realizing it):
2563 segments Eastern US (2 map files)
2662 segments Western US (2 map files)
1425 segments Alaska (1 map file)
0027 segments Hawaii (1 map file)
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6677 segments Total

I'm willing to bet that that analysis is 100% the problem.  It would explain why it seemed eratic as to which maps were showing or not, such as the fact that Alaska & Hawaii weren't showing even though all 6 map files were in the unit.  Even my trick of renaming the files may have just caused the unit to load the maps in a different order, finally picking up motopo11 before trying to load those old maps; and thus having it "work" partially - just missing some of the old Legend topo maps.  Makes complete sense to me.

Odd thing is, I remember when I got the eTrex 20 I called Garmin support near KC and asked them if I could just reuse the maps from the old Legend and they said it was fine.  Ha!  It's odd that they didn't tell me about the max 4000 segments.  I imagine that I could run into the same problem with maps from this site if I get too greedy, unless the segment sizes are very, very large compared to those old topos.  Guess I can check those in MapSource too.

Well, as an IT Architect, I often have to deal with folks who complain about programs being too slow; so I understand the importance of perceived versus actual performance.  I may have been wrong about the zoom in/zoom out performance increase.  But I can definitely state that starting up the unit doesn't take as long.  And no wonder!

Thanks again.  I'm glad that you knew about the internal limitations of the firmware.  Cleared a lot of mystery.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: MountainWoods on May 07, 2013, 01:38:56 PM
Answered my own question.  Went into MapSource and selected all of the segments on all of the maps I had downloaded so far from this site, and it was less than 2000 segments.  Cool.

I wonder if MapInstall tells you how many segments you're about to download.  I'm not in a position to use it just now.  Anyway, 'twould be nice if it told you that.  'Twould even be better if it queried the unit for its maximum capacity (or looked it up in a table) and let you know if you're going overboard.

I can understand why the old topos had such a high number of very small segments.  An annoying problem with the old Legend is when I'd be getting ready for an outing and I'd be pulling my hair wondering if I should select that segment or this one over here.  Where am I going to wonder into?  How can I fit this all in 8 Meg?  If the segment sizes would have been large, it would have made the decision really bad!

As overall maps, I really liked those old topos, even though they aren't detailed.  It was nice that they covered half of the country, instead of 1 state at a time.  But they'd have to be combined somehow to be usable any more.  And I doubt that Garmin's going to do that gratis!  And no one else can, because the maps are theirs.  Oh well.  I can still view them in BaseCamp.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on May 07, 2013, 04:23:14 PM
Glad I could help. :) Actually Garmin released a special version of the 100k topo when the first device with a pre-loaded map appeared (Colorado 400t IIRC). That version only has about 450 segments for the whole US, and you can purchase it now either on pre-loaded card or via download.

I have read that there's a new version of the 100k topo which is shipping on the Oregon 6x0 series, possibly using Navteq road data, like the 24k maps.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: maps4gps on May 07, 2013, 05:28:13 PM
'...just reuse the maps from the old Legend and they said it was fine.' 
1.  Garmin might have been thinking of the legal side of reusing the maps.  Some of their products are licensed to a single GPSr or micro memory card.
2.  I would take 'from the old Legend' to mean the files you had on the Legend.  With the multi Gbyte capability of the newer GPSrs, 8Mb would be 'fine'.  Did you inform them you loaded the entire topo mapset (West, East, AK & HI)?

Garmin is known to have erroneous specs.  The actual segment limit for some of the newer units are in the mid-3800's.  There were some posts on that 2-3 years ago on other websites.
There were about 3975 segments for the 48 states in topo11.  When I sent the last 'block' of files to the OR300, I got a message about too many segments. The OR300 did start, however, some of the segments in the last 'block' would not display.   After renaming the first 'block' with a non-img extension, the 'missing' files displayed.  I changed the extension on the first 'block' and created a small last 'block' along a line of longitude;  total segments were about 3840 and all displayed.  I added .img files a column of longitude at a time to the last 'block' and never received an error message; even when the total segments on the GPSr was back to 3975; however, when I did a visual on the GPSr, some of the segments did not display.  As your experience also indicates, the GPSr's segment limit may be exceeded  and an error message may or may not be given.   


In some respects BaseCamp and MapInstall are not a informative as MapSource.  Garmin created them for their Birdseye raster files and only gave minimal support to vector files.
The newer units also have some types of files (POI's and waypoints) in a different location so MS will not be able to move them. 

It is a trade-off in have recent data available for the perfectly good older units versus maps that take advantage of the capabilities of the new units.  I have been slowly increasing the average file size of my mapsets.  A few years ago, a mariner asked if some segments in OZ's FL topo could be made smaller as his Garmin marine GPSr unit had a total memory of 1.2Mb.
Last fall I received an e-mail from a user whose GPSr only had 800k of memory.

I have never tested the performance of a mapset with 200 1Mb .img files versus the same area in 10 20Mb .img files.  I think Garmin's topo100 mapset had 60+Mb .img file sizes.   I had some test mapsets in the 6 - 8 Gb range and GPSr startup times were about 10 seconds per Gb; and a few times in less than 15 seconds total.  Who knows why. 



Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: maps4gps on May 07, 2013, 05:43:12 PM
Boyd,
   Have you heard anything of an update of the 24k topos?  This winter, Garmin's specs were still saying v2.0, 2009.  When I check last week there was no info on version nor date.

USGS did not finish replacing the very poor NED data created by photomapper and manual profiling production methods until the Dec, 2012 'release', and the remaining oversampled NED data until the Feb, 2013 'release'. 
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: MountainWoods on May 07, 2013, 06:37:49 PM
The maps I got with my Legend were on a DVD back in 2005.  I remember that it was annoying that they did not have a way to copy the data files to the hard drive (like DeLorme's Street Atlas has always had).  They expected MapSource to read the data from the DVD every time it was used.  Yuck!

But, again, being computer savvy, I copied the data files onto my HD, used regedit to find where MapSource was looking for its data (e:\ I think), and changed it to point to the directory on the HD -- crossing my fingers that the longer directory name wouldn't cause an internal filename buffer overrun -- and it worked.  I did the same thing when I later upgraded to this PC I'm on.

(Even more annoying: the Walmart salesman lied to me and said that the Legend could plug into a USB port.  I was flabbergasted when I got home and found that it needed a serial port; at a time when serial ports were already archaic.  I hadn't had a PC with a serial port for years.  I had to purchase a serial to USB converter to use the blasted Legend.  I figured that the Legend was already supposed to be just a legend.)

Last year I installed BaseCamp whilst I still had the old Legend, and BaseCamp recognized the data files also.  I remember talking to Garmin very early on, perhaps before I even bought the 20 or just after, can't remember which.  I asked them if I could reuse the maps I had with the Legend.  I doubt that I told them that I was planning to install all of the files on the unit at the same time (since it didn't occur to me that that might break a limit).  Anyway, like you say, they may have been thinking about permissions to reuse the same maps, rather than capabilities.

Still, it's funny that they didn't tell me that not all of the segments would fit on the 20 (inspite of the files themselves fitting).  I knew that there were many segments in a given file, but I never new what the limit was or, indeed, if there even was a limit.  Boyd's explanation was the first time the light bulbs started lighting up.  "Of course.  Too many segments!"

When I plugged in the eTrex 20 for the first time and brought up BaseCamp, it seems (if I remember right) that it "noticed" that the unit only had the base map and that I had more data files present, so it asked me if I wanted to install them.  Gleefully and naively I figured "Why not?"  Without having had a technical discussion on segments and the limits of the unit, who would have done otherwise?  Seemed great to me!  Live and Learn.

Now I realize that I should have used the Customize to copy just areas of the country that I was interested in at the time.  But even then, neither MapInstall nor the unit warns you that you've got too many segments being copied over.  Duh!
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on May 08, 2013, 04:02:03 AM
In some respects BaseCamp and MapInstall are not a informative as MapSource.  Garmin created them for their Birdseye raster files and only gave minimal support to vector files.

Are you sure about that? Basecamp was introduced in January 2009: http://garmin.blogs.com/pr/2009/01/introducing-basecamp-garmins-new-tool-for-planning-and-reviewing-all-of-your-outdoor-adventures.html

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“BaseCamp brings a whole new set of features to hikers, hunters, geocachers, and anyone else who wants to maximize their experience with their Garmin GPS,” said Dan Bartel, Garmin’s vice president of worldwide sales.  “This new utility lets users view, organize, and transfer their data more quickly and efficiently – allowing them to make the most of their time exploring the great outdoors.”

Birdseye didn't come along until January 2010: http://garmin.blogs.com/pr/2010/01/garmin-launches-birdseye-satellite-and-aerial-imagery.html?activeBranchId=newsroom

FWIW, "Custom maps" (.kmz files) were introduced in October 2009 http://www.gpsfix.net/custom-raster-maps-garmin-oregon-dakota-colorado/
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Jcalhoun on August 31, 2013, 07:31:10 PM
I just purchased an Astro 320 and I am having trouble downloading the SC Topo maps....  I downloaded a map from this website and saved it to my SD Card....  The problem I am having is my Astro 320 isn't reading the SD Card...  Please help...  Thanks so much...
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Jcalhoun on August 31, 2013, 07:46:29 PM
I am using Windows 8 and I downloaded the link for the 32 bit and I still cant get it to work...
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Seldom on September 01, 2013, 04:14:44 PM
Did you follow this tutorial? (http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-load-maps-on-my-garmin-gps-unit/)
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: caryt on September 26, 2013, 03:59:49 PM
I am a first time gps owner 60 years old and not savvy on any of this stuff.
I have a new Garmin Montana 600 I have loaded base camp on my win 7 pro and also have dnloaded the Nevada topo and the Ca. catopo11 from this site.

The 600 just has whatever they loaded and I don't need any of the preloaded maps as my JK has all the street maps I need.

I've tried to search for a direct answer but..no luch.

What I would like to do is either load both maps to the 600 or just the NV and put the other on a SD card.

Its the file sizes that I can't find a answer to as to if I can load all or just how big the files take up.

Sure would appreciate help.

Thanks.

Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Seldom on September 26, 2013, 08:19:08 PM
Figure the maps expanded will be about 120% the size of the compressed download.  Get yourself a 16GB (microSD) memory card.  Both maps will fit with lots of room for Birdseyes.  Note that Big Desert Southwest includes all of NV, and a healthy chunk of CA, and is routable.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on September 27, 2013, 04:00:59 AM
I also have a Montana 600. It has 4GB of internal memory and there aren't any preloaded maps, only a simple basemap that you shouldn't delete (it only takes 51MB, so it wouldn't free up any significant space anyway).

There should be almost 3.5 GB of free space on the Montana internal memory, and most likely that's more than enough to load a number of maps from this site. Now it isn't a bad idea to get an SD card, but I would say it's optional. I have been using my Montana for over two years and have City Navigator plus 4 of my own maps installed. I am not using a card and I still have about 1.5GB free space in internal memory.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: caryt on October 08, 2013, 02:56:57 PM
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: redjack on October 24, 2013, 05:34:15 PM
I am also having issues getting the downloaded map files installed into basecamp. Note that your tutorial is over 3 years old and for basecamp 2.0.9, current version of basecamp is 4.2.3. You tutorial needs a serious update.

The installer for the map I downloaded, minnesota topo (mntopo11.tdb) installs the files in C:\Program Files (x86)\mntopo11, rather than in basecamp.

Also, the instructions for manually loading the extracted .img files is over 4 years old, the software referenced is no longer supported by the developer, and also doesn't work.

Could really use some help with getting the maps installed.

Thank you
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Seldom on October 24, 2013, 08:39:34 PM
Note that your tutorial is over 3 years old and for basecamp 2.0.9, current version of basecamp is 4.2.3. You tutorial needs a serious update.
Installers written for 2.0.9 still work with current BaseCamp.  Try installing http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/53/ (with BaseCamp closed), and see if that solves the problem.  If not, you'll need to explain your symptoms more completely.  Don't know what software for "manually loading" IMG files you are referring to, but the technology for Garmin vector maps is at least 8 years old, so what you are referring to is just thoroughly tested.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: mnnewb on December 30, 2013, 08:49:51 PM
This may not be the right place to post this, but I'm having trouble loading maps correctly onto my Dakota 20.  I'm new to this all, but downloaded BaseCamp fine it seems, downloaded several maps into BaseCamp and they show up fine on the computer in BaseCamp.  I loaded them from BaseCamp into the Dakota 20 seemingly ok, they show up under map set up and I enabled them, but I get none of the street/road/trail/topo/other detail that's in the maps.  It's like I didn't load anything at all.  Minnesota Topo and US Planimetric - North Central were the two I tried.  I tried them one at a time, in the order listed previously.  I removed Minnesota Topo from the GPSr before trying the Planimetric.  The Minnesota Topo did change the maps I saw, but was nothing like on the computer.  With the Planimetric there was no difference at all.  In fact, I used to have interstates and major highways but those are gone now as well.  I tried a lot of combinations of disabling/enabling the maps loaded from the factory.  Any help would be much appreciated.   
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: mnnewb on December 30, 2013, 09:52:33 PM
False alarm on the post just above.  It has started working now, not perfect, but I guess that may be due to screen size.  I changed profile and it started to work.  Not sure why, as I changed back to where it was and it still works, but must have triggered something. 
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Torquatus on April 11, 2014, 06:26:25 PM
Note that your tutorial is over 3 years old and for basecamp 2.0.9, current version of basecamp is 4.2.3. You tutorial needs a serious update.
Installers written for 2.0.9 still work with current BaseCamp.

I am experiencing the same challenge.   I just installed BaseCamp version 4.2.5 and the menus operate very differently than what the gpsfiledepot.com tutorial shows for version 2.0.9.

I downloaded the map installer at: gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/424

I then ran the installer (424-7010-oregon_topo_install.exe) on my machine, which does indeed install to "C:\Program Files (x86)\mntopo11" by default -- is this the wrong directory?

When I run BaseCamp, it cannot find the installed files.  Instead I get a window that says "No unlocked maps were found for this device."

What am I missing here???  Thanks.

(http://www.astrostudio.org/mapinstallfail.png)
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Seldom on April 12, 2014, 07:50:15 PM
What OS?
If (Win7 or 8)/64 bit you need to install http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/53 also.  See notes in red on Oregon download page.   
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: ronbo3851 on August 04, 2015, 02:07:39 PM
Well I've downloaded and installed 2 different maps and neither one shows up in Garmin Basecamp in the drop down box from the tutorial. Looking for help. Thanks.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Russ1217 on October 06, 2015, 03:09:22 PM
I am also one of those frustrated individuals who cannot load maps. I have a new Garmin GPSMAP64s and I have been through all this stuff for hours on end. My problem is when I click on MapsInstaller, it comes up with my device recognized, but the words "No unlocked maps were found for this device." Then the continue button is greyed out, and I just can't get the NY topo map (which is stored in a folder with dozens of ".img" files) from my computer into BaseCamp. I will pray deeply and sincerely for anyone that can help.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on October 07, 2015, 05:20:04 AM
I just can't get the NY topo map (which is stored in a folder with dozens of ".img" files) from my computer

Can you view the NY topo map in Basecamp on your computer?
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: 2Wolfes on March 10, 2016, 10:04:17 AM
Having the same issue - get exactly the same results..No unlocked maps were found for this device... (Oregon 650)

This is a new Win10 PC.  D/L'd newest version of BaseCamp (4.6.2)  Unable to install any maps from gpsfiledepot.com.  I have 12 state topo maps already installed (from a few years ago using an older PC).  BaseCamp doesn't recognize as being on the GPS (Oregon 650).  The files are on an SD card - can move the card to another 650 and it works just fine.  Just can't anything to install and be recognized.  Arghhhhh. 

Any ideas.  I've done the help files, the tutorials, tried reinstalling the maps I already have installed, tried installing new maps - nothing works.  At all . . .

Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: -Oz- on March 10, 2016, 07:07:36 PM
Do they show on base camp at all (map products) regardless of being on the GPS. Also, can you try to install mapsource and see if that makes them appear. This far I haven't been able to simulate this issue with Windows 10 and the newest base camp.

Some people had luck putting the maps in c:\garmin. There are issues with that with ssd but...
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: 2Wolfes on March 11, 2016, 07:16:51 AM
Thanks for your response.  I was able to resolve the issue with redirecting the installation of the maps to C:\Garmin (the installers ask fortunately).  Here's a note I posted earlier today about the same issue.

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After much head scratching, weeping and gnashing of teeth, I started playing around with the install instructions (I'm not near techy/nerdy enough to be comfortable with this).  I noticed that the topo maps I was working with wanted to install to c:\programfiles(x86)\topomapname.  Since the Garmin GPSs require the compiled map to be in the *:\Garmin subdirectory to be recognized I just changed the location in the setup screen to c:\Garmin.  That maps went there (were compiled there?) and Basecamp found them right away. Don't know if it's a Win10 thing or a BaseCamp thing but it works now.

So, in a nut shell - Win10 system, BaseCamp 4.6.2 --

Make sure the maps install to to C:\Garmin.  You'll be asked where you want them to go during the installation process.

Oh, and now I see that Firemann59 posted the same solution. 

I have spent WAY too much time on the forums these last two days.  There's some great information here.  And I can actually understand some of it.

Thanks to all who ask and those who share their knowledge.
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Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on March 11, 2016, 07:36:43 AM
I posted a response in this thread: http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4939

Garmin uses this location for map installation, and a properly written third party installer can do this too.

C:\ProgramData\Garmin\Maps

Garmin changed the install location for maps with the introduction of Windows Vista, so I suspect you are using some old maps and the installers are using the locations that worked in Windows XP.

BTW, it really helps if you don't start multiple threads on the same topic. It just makes it harder for people to help when the discussion is split between forums. ;)
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: 2Wolfes on March 11, 2016, 07:58:09 AM
So sorry about the multiple threads.  I'll do better . . . :-[

"Garmin uses this location for map installation, and a properly written third party installer can do this too.

C:\ProgramData\Garmin\Maps  "

My Win10 system doesn't have the "C:\ProgramData" subdirectory.  As I haven't installed a Garmin map (one put out by Garmin) on my system, I can't speak to what they use for a location on a Win10 system.  Regardless, by directing the maps from this site to "C:\Garmin\mapname" BaseCamp finds 'em and installs 'em.  And that makes me happy.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: -Oz- on March 11, 2016, 08:42:29 PM
I'll test this when I get home and adjust the instances template
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on March 12, 2016, 05:46:57 AM
My Win10 system doesn't have the "C:\ProgramData" subdirectory.  As I haven't installed a Garmin map (one put out by Garmin) on my system

Wow, I guess Win 10 is really different then. The C:\ProgramData directory is not a "Garmin thing", it's where all programs are supposed to store their data to make it available to all users. So it exists on Win 7 and Vista regardless of whether you have any maps on your computer.

We have a mega-thread about installers here: https://forums.gpsfiledepot.com/index.php?topic=2383.0

From one of my posts there:

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If I use a command prompt and type "set", I see

ALLUSERSPROFILE=C:\ProgramData

Can you try this on Win 10 (just type SET on the command line)? I think the location specified in ALLUSERSPROFILE is where Garmin creates its "Maps" subdirectory, and is the standard place where Garmin software looks for its maps.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: 2Wolfes on March 13, 2016, 06:12:48 AM
Ok, managed to get the command prompt up (I said I wasn't the most "techy" apple in the crate  :o).  Anyway, ran "set" and yep, there's the "ALLUSERSPROFILE=C:\ProgramData".  But I can't find that directory using the default file explorer on the PC.  I reckon it's hidden from folks like me.  I noticed when I installed the FL topo, that it didn't give me an option of changing it's destination - it just ran right through and loaded.  And BaseCamp found it just fine.  So went looking for it using the "find" feature of the file explorer.  and it found it in the C:\ProgramData directory!! 

My speculation -

The Windows installer for the FL map was tweaked to use the "ProgramData" directory for the maps (to match change the Garmin made with Vista - something you pointed out  :D) .  The others I've installed are and earlier version that us the "Program Files (x86)" directory - the pre-Vista destination.

You knew what ailed me early on ("Garmin changed the install location for maps with the introduction of Windows Vista, so I suspect you are using some old maps and the installers are using the locations that worked in Windows XP.")  I just needed to make sense of that change.  I'm a newb at all this and a visual learner.

My next project will be to reload the maps other than the FL topo and change the destination folder to "C:\ProgramData\mapname" and get rid of my "workaround".

Interesting to note, when installing the "MyTrails" overlay the default destination is "C:\Garmin\MyTrails".  Must be why I "figured out" where to sent the other maps . . . ???

Thanks so much for your comments and insight.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on March 13, 2016, 06:32:27 AM
My next project will be to reload the maps other than the FL topo and change the destination folder to "C:\ProgramData\mapname" and get rid of my "workaround".

Great, glad that you figured it out. However, I think the correct location is actually "C:\ProgramData\Garmin\mapname". :)
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: -Oz- on March 15, 2016, 06:42:16 PM
Alright so I wiped a computer and spent some time experimenting. It turns out Windows 10 changed how the NSIS installer works to it "doubled" the registry and loaded it into the wrong spot. This meant that it wouldn't work. The weird catch was if you had previously installed one prior to the upgrade for some reason it installed correctly. Additionally, it doesn't appear to matter what directory it is installed in so for now i left Program Files (x86); if anyone has an issue let me know.

Either way I fixed the map install nsi file. Updated version here (https://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tools/map_install.zip). Rather than trying to experiment and find the right place in the registry it is now coded in correctly.

Thus far I've updated the Arizona Topo install but I'll begin chugging through all my maps in the coming days to get the right version.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on March 15, 2016, 06:47:39 PM
Sounds like a good reason to finally dump the antiquated registry system and switch to the new file-based .gmap format as discussed in this long thread :) https://forums.gpsfiledepot.com/index.php?topic=2383.0
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: -Oz- on March 15, 2016, 07:04:47 PM
Yea I debated that since I have the installer script already created. My problem is I feel that whole thing is "antiquated" since it does require you to load the maps to the C: drive which is not a great plan if you do a small(er) SSD for C: and store data in another location.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: AdamsR on March 17, 2016, 03:05:53 PM
I'm new to GPSFileDepot and Garmin GPS.  Following the thread above related to Windows 10, I think I'm having a similar problem with Mac OS (El Capitan).  Map Installer can not see the map file.  I see it in BaseCamp, but I don't know how to get Map Installer to read the file so I can transfer it onto my GPSMAP 64s unit.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on March 17, 2016, 03:46:56 PM
I have both Macs and Windows computers. The issue being discussed here has NOTHING to do with any problems you're experiencing on the Mac… trust me on that one. :)

If you can see the map in Basecamp, then it is properly installed on your computer. Go to your applications folder and double-click on Garmin MapInstall. The first screen asks you to select the device for installation. If you GPS doesn't appear there, then you are out of luck and will not be able to continue.

Assuming that you are able to continue, the next screen should show a small map. There should be a dropdown menu in the upper left corner. If you pull that menu down, you can pick any map that is installed in Basecamp. If you have only installed one map, then that will be the only item on the dropdown menu.

Can you get this far? If not then I'd say there might be a problem with your installation of Garmin's software. We have seen other examples where users fixed problems by downloading and re-installing Basecamp/Mapinstall/Mapmanager.

But if you got that far, then use the slider on the left to zoom out and view the whole map. Now drag a box around the area of the map that you want to send to the GPS. You cannot send the map until you do this.

Now I am still on an older version of MacOsX but that is how it should work.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: nyjason18 on June 27, 2016, 03:55:06 PM
How do I load the adirondak high peaks map on my garmin GPSmap 60csx?  When I try to use the basecamp software and load the map to the device I get an error that  says GPSmaps 60csx does not support garmin custom maps.

Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on June 27, 2016, 05:22:58 PM
The message says it all. This kind of map is not compatible with the 60csx (I also have a 60csx). You need a newer device to use this type map The GPSMap 62 and 64 support Custom Maps as do the Colorado, Dakota, Oregon and Montana series along with the eTrex 20/30.

If you look at the map page: https://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/608/ notice the icon that says "GARMIN Custom Map". All maps of this type are incompatible with your GPS.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: rah on August 31, 2016, 02:54:43 PM
I haven't had much difficulty loading maps - at least in the past I have not.  However, today I keep getting a message to the effect that "no unlocked maps were found" after I attempted to load two maps onto my Etrex 30 (fairly new model; little over a year old).  Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong?  I utilized Map Install and Base Camp, to no avail.

I suspect it is something obvious I am doing wrong, but I can't identify what that might be.  Would appreciate any feedback/help anyone can offer.  Thanks.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: jayserfer on April 26, 2017, 03:51:50 PM
Hi all, newbie here.

I have the latest version of basecamp and windows 7 professional.  I cannot get basecamp to load the CA topo 2011.  I have tried saving it in every location I cant think of.  Any ideas?

Can I use the MapSetToolkit to do this?
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: jayserfer on April 27, 2017, 08:41:18 AM
I found the answer in another thread.  My problem was with windows 7.  Heres what worked for me:

That map has a bug that many older maps on this site also have. It is basically fine, but there's a problem with the installer that prevents it from showing on Windows 7 64 bit and newer. However there is a simple fix, as mentioned by the author:

Quote
There is an issue with the 64-bit installer used in the PC version of this mapset. If this is the first mapset you are installing on a Windows 7 64 bit PC, you will need to FIRST install a mapset which used a 32-bit installer, 'My trails ....' http ://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/53 works and is small in size.

If you have already installed the map, uninstall it. Then install the mytrails map from the link in the quote above. You don't need to "use" the map, just install it. That will create some resources that will allow the NC Topo to work properly.

Now re-install the NC Topo and it should work properly.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: ridefreemc on June 07, 2017, 07:01:06 PM
I haven't had much difficulty loading maps - at least in the past I have not.  However, today I keep getting a message to the effect that "no unlocked maps were found" after I attempted to load two maps onto my Etrex 30 (fairly new model; little over a year old).  Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong?  I utilized Map Install and Base Camp, to no avail.

I suspect it is something obvious I am doing wrong, but I can't identify what that might be.  Would appreciate any feedback/help anyone can offer.  Thanks.

I have this same issue (mac and an Etrex 20x) and cannot click "continue", as it is greyed out. I must be missing something simple, but heck if I know what that is. Any ideas?

Edit: I may have found the answer. It was simple, in that I didn't have the files in the "Garmin" folder!
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on June 08, 2017, 08:17:01 AM
I wrote up some instructions in another thread, see if this helps: https://forums.gpsfiledepot.com/index.php?topic=4358.msg24074#msg24074
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: ridefreemc on June 08, 2017, 02:39:51 PM
Boyd that is helpful - thank you. I just didn't know where to drag/place the maps that were downloaded. I just dropped them in the Gamin folder on my SD card, but funny that they got loaded onto the device instead. Anyway, I got them on the little GPS. I will likely use maps, but the GPS may come in handy for my upcoming hikes in Missouri and Colorado. Nice to have a backup.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: overshot03 on July 22, 2017, 03:40:42 AM


I am having issues downloading OSM too routable for the northeast into Basecamp. I am using Basecamp 4.6.3 & Mac OS 10.12.5.

I download the file to my computer then try to open the file with either Basecamp or Garmin Map install.  Each gives the same message that it cannot be installed. I have then opened Basecamp and tried to import the file and get the same message each time.

I have followed the GPSfile depot step by step and get the same thing,

Any suggestions on how to get this to wok? Thanks!
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: Boyd on July 22, 2017, 04:11:23 AM
You should not need to "open" or "import" a map into Basecamp. When you double-click the .gmapi or .gmap file, Garmin MapManager should open and ask if you want to install the map. If this didn't happen, then you probably have not fully installed the Basecamp package.

Look in your Applications folder - is there a program called Garmin MapManager.app? If not, then download/install Basecamp from here: http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4449

If it still does not work, then there is probably some issue with the map you are trying to install.
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: popej on July 22, 2017, 09:39:37 AM
I am having issues downloading OSM too routable for the northeast into Basecamp. I am using Basecamp 4.6.3 & Mac OS 10.12.5.
Could it be USA Northeast OSM Topo Routable? In this case downloaded file is an archive compressed by 7-zip. You need to unpack it first. Try to use keka for unpacking:
http://www.kekaosx.com/en/
Title: Re: How Do I Load Maps On My GPS Unit?
Post by: overshot03 on July 22, 2017, 05:52:43 PM
Thanks all, up and working great now.  I did have the full set of Basecamp installed with Garmin map installer.

All it took was to unzip the file, then open it with Garmin map installer.

I compared it to an event I did today with recording the track on Gaia, and then imported the track GPX in and overlaid it on the northeast OSM too with trails, and it was incredibly accurate.
Thanks again-