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Title: Anyone use old National Geographic TOPO state series with Windows 10?
Post by: n2stitch on March 18, 2016, 06:29:12 PM
Using recommended compatibility settings, Topo will open.  I can activate a state, and it will let me copy all the discs to my hard drive, but then when I zoom in to the most detail, it will either tell me to insert a particular disc, or it will pretend it zoomed but just display a white screen.  Any ideas/suggestions?
Title: Re: Anyone use old National Geographic TOPO state series with Windows 10?
Post by: Indrid Cold on March 19, 2016, 07:34:45 PM
You are going to have to check the NatGeo site for customer service on their software.
Title: Re: Anyone use old National Geographic TOPO state series with Windows 10?
Post by: n2stitch on March 20, 2016, 06:54:40 AM
They sold the software to AllTrails and neither one support it, at least I haven't found anywhere that does.  The old TOPO email addresses bounce.
Title: Re: Anyone use old National Geographic TOPO state series with Windows 10?
Post by: Boyd on March 20, 2016, 07:38:23 AM
Many years ago I used a program called "virtual PC" to run Windows software on my Macintosh. I still have a copy of one of the Natl Geographic State maps that I used this way. Some years after that, Microsoft bought Virtual PC and withdrew the Mac version. However Virtual PC then appeared a little later as a feature of Widows 7 that allowed you to run legacy software in a virtual machine.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7

I really don't know anything about Windows 10. Can it also do this? That should allow you to use the TOPO software.

If you want scanned USGS 24k maps (which is basically what TOPO was), you might look at Garmin Birdseye Topo. It consists of scans of the same maps. Costs $30 for unlimited download for a year, works in Basecamp and on all newer Garmin handhelds.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/prod98816.html
Title: Re: Anyone use old National Geographic TOPO state series with Windows 10?
Post by: n2stitch on March 22, 2016, 04:23:08 PM
Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Anyone use old National Geographic TOPO state series with Windows 10?
Post by: Boyd on March 22, 2016, 05:31:17 PM
Hmm, just did a quick Google search and it seems like Microsoft dropped Virtual PC support in Windows 8.  >:(

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/need-information-on-xp-mode-on-windows-10/e14df2df-4ebb-4bee-8e81-20755a22dbad?auth=1
Title: Re: Anyone use old National Geographic TOPO state series with Windows 10?
Post by: popej on March 23, 2016, 04:36:18 AM
There are free alternatives for virtualization:
https://my.vmware.com/en/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_workstation_player/12_0
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

Programs are free but Windows isn't.
Title: Re: Anyone use old National Geographic TOPO state series with Windows 10?
Post by: n2stitch on March 23, 2016, 05:46:54 PM
Sadly, the problem is worse.  My husband has a laptop with Win 7 (same as my old one) that he let me install it on.  Same display issues for the same states.  Some work, some don't, but of course the state that matters most (the one I live in) doesn't work.

Ticks me off to have spent so much money on discs that are now just coasters.  I can't even be bothered to look for a replacement.  Stick a fork in me, I'm done.  This whole situation ha actually just about killed my desire to mess with my maps, trails, or gps ever again. 
Title: Re: Anyone use old National Geographic TOPO state series with Windows 10?
Post by: Boyd on March 23, 2016, 06:31:08 PM
If you are using a Windows 7 computer, then you should be able to use the Virtual PC option I described above. Caveat is that I don't think this works with the home edition of Win 7. Instructions are here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7

Title: Re: Anyone use old National Geographic TOPO state series with Windows 10?
Post by: popej on March 24, 2016, 02:05:41 AM
If this is for testing only, then use VMware Player or Virtualbox and some time limited Windows XP from Microsoft:
https://dev.windows.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/windows/

This should work on Windows 10 too.
Title: Re: Anyone use old National Geographic TOPO state series with Windows 10?
Post by: Muddie on September 30, 2016, 10:16:30 PM
I get the same thing with the zooming in and seeing a white box and I'm on Windows 10. I guess there's no way to fix this?
Title: Re: Anyone use old National Geographic TOPO state series with Windows 10?
Post by: bernard h garcia on January 04, 2017, 03:44:06 AM
I run both window xp and window 7 with this Topo! with no problem..my problem is to find a GPS compatible for live application off road