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Title: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Gregoat on October 02, 2010, 03:16:33 PM
New to this forum but here goes.  I have a Rino 530hcx that I am trying to get the idaho topo maps loaded unto.  I have a MAC ibook g4 laptop that I am using to upload the maps to the unit.  I have followed the instructions for doing that, that are shown on the GPS File Depot site.  It is telling me that the maps have been installed successfully but I can't get them to display on the Rino.  I have an 8gb sd card installed in the Rino.  Anyone on this forum that would be so kind as to give me some pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: -Oz- on October 02, 2010, 03:43:33 PM
Did you actually load the maps onto the card or just installed on your computer?

Did you follow this tutorial: Loading the maps on your GPS from a Mac (http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-load-maps-on-my-garmin-gps-unit/#mac)
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Gregoat on October 02, 2010, 07:05:12 PM
Yes, I followed the tutorial and my Rino's screen was registering data being transferred.  The installer page also said the transfer was successful.  I just can't find it.  Any other ideas?
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: -Oz- on October 02, 2010, 07:52:56 PM
Are you zoomed in far enough?
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Gregoat on October 03, 2010, 06:33:26 AM
Just tried zooming in to the max and still no topo map on the screen.  When I go to the setup map page the only maps I see installed are the alaska and british columbia maps that I downloaded from the GPS file depot site.  Got any other ideas?
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: alpine on October 03, 2010, 07:37:55 AM
So what you're sayin is that you installed the maps on the card? Did you look at the card and see the image file there (in a Garmin folder) after you loaded it?
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Gregoat on October 03, 2010, 08:58:01 AM
Obviously I am new to this.  How do I look to see what is on the card?  Do I need some sort of a card reader?  I can't seem to find any way to access the card from the rino.
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: -Oz- on October 03, 2010, 12:03:01 PM
There should be an option to go to Interface mode and then it will show up on the computer as a hard drive.

Did you load any other maps after loading the topo? If you did it will have deleted the topo map.
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Gregoat on October 03, 2010, 04:33:01 PM
I just looked through everything on both the rino and my ibook.  Couldn't find any option in garmin mapmanager or any of my other applications nor on any of the pages in the rino that are labeled interface.  I also reloaded the idaho topo map and all the prompts are saying that the transfer was successful.  Could this have anything to do with my trying to use the Mac and my web browser is Safari?  Got any other ideas. 
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Gregoat on October 04, 2010, 09:10:39 AM
Think I may have figured out my problem.  I did finally figure out where the interface page is in the system setup menu.  When I access the usb mass storage page and open up the file I get an error message that says no mountable disc found.  Further investigation led me to the discovery that I have an 8gb micro sdhc card installed in the unit.  The owners manual and some further research on the internet would lead me to believe that the rino won't work with the hc card.  It will only use a standard sd card.  Does this make sense?
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Indrid Cold on October 04, 2010, 09:18:44 AM
Use Webupdater to make sure you have the latest software in the gps and that MAY take care of it for you...
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Boyd on October 04, 2010, 10:05:58 AM
Could be hard to find a non-SDHC micro card. Perhaps a 1GB or 2GB? But the old type cards are generally getting hard to find these days. Here is what Garmin says about cards; it does not mention SDHC vs SD however

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Question: 
What is the largest SD/microSD card supported by an expandable memory device?

Answer:
There are several products within the Outdoor and Fitness families that can accept expandable memory cards in SD or microSD format. These cards, for some devices, can be used to store active track-log data, however, all expandable memory devices can utilize the additional memory to store MapSource products.

There are limitations to the size of SD/microSD card used and to the number of detailed mapping segments that can be recognized by a device.

If at the most recent unit software version, these limitations are:

There is no limitation to the size of SD/microSD card used but the device will only recognize 4GB of detailed mapping
Each expandable memory device will be able to recognize up to 2,025 detailed mapping segments
If 2,025 detailed mapping segments are loaded to an SD/microSD card but does not reach 4GB worth of data, the unit will not show any more detailed mapping than what is provided by the mapping segments.

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Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Gregoat on October 04, 2010, 07:37:20 PM
Now I am really confused.  Used web updater and reloaded the software.  Then got a card reader and a 2gb sd card.  Downloaded the idaho topo onto the 2gb card and still have nothing.  When I go to the interface page and open the file I get the message that there are no mountable files on the disk.  I am at a loss.
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: -Oz- on October 04, 2010, 09:22:53 PM
When you look at the card reader what files are on the microSD card?
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: huntinernie on October 04, 2010, 10:56:15 PM
I have 3 530hcx the image must be in a garmin folder it cant read a card biger than 4g and some times the card has to be reset in its slot in the garmin . A image over 2g slows down the unit.
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Gregoat on October 05, 2010, 07:06:20 AM
When I put the 2gb sd card in the reader and open it first I get a Garmin folder.  Opening the folder I get a file gmapsupp.img.  When I open that file I get a box that is titled Image-The following disk images failed to mount.  Reason-no mountable file systems.  ?????
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Indrid Cold on October 05, 2010, 07:28:50 AM
When I put the 2gb sd card in the reader and open it first I get a Garmin folder.  Opening the folder I get a file gmapsupp.img.  When I open that file I get a box that is titled Image-The following disk images failed to mount.  Reason-no mountable file systems.  ?????
you can't click on the gmapsupp.img file and have it open, and it's normal for a Mac to assume that an .img file is a legacy disk image. Apple has been using that extention from the time they first added a harddrive to their early Macs. ;) As you have a card reader, send the maps to the card in the reader and then install the card in the Rino and see if that works better.
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Gregoat on October 05, 2010, 07:49:59 AM
Downloaded the maps to the 2gb card in the reader and get the same error message when I try to open the gmapsupp.img file.  Are my Mac and this model of Garmin just not compatible? 
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Indrid Cold on October 05, 2010, 09:39:27 AM
What error and open it how?
Macs work just fine.
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Gregoat on October 05, 2010, 11:36:53 AM
I tried to open the gmapupp.img file first in the card reader and then in the rino by double clicking and also by highlighting that file and then hitting file and then clicking open.  Got the same images failed to mount message.  I don't know if it makes any difference but when I go to the information page on the set up map page the only maps I see are two that I downloaded off of this site.  Those being the Alaska topos and the British Columbia Northwest trails.  I am pretty sure they are loaded on the rino internal memory.  Thanks again for anymore suggestions.
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Indrid Cold on October 05, 2010, 12:17:39 PM
I tried to open the gmapupp.img file first in the card reader and then in the rino by double clicking and also by highlighting that file and then hitting file and then clicking open.  Got the same images failed to mount message.
I wrote earlier that you can not do that, a Mac is going to think that file is an Apple disk image. Please stop doing that.

With the card out of the gps, start up the gps and what maps are on it?

If you see Topo maps then they are in an internal memory, but I didn't think those units had any internal map memory...
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Gregoat on October 05, 2010, 07:37:13 PM
In my last post I skipped over the part where after I downloaded the map to the 2gb card in the card reader I loaded into the rino.  I then fired up the rino and after it acquired the satellites I went to the map page and zoomed all the way in and out several times and did not see any sign of topo maps.  At that point I started trying to open the files to see if there was any difference in the status.  As far as what maps I see when I turn on the unit there only seems to be the preloaded garmin map.  No sign of any topo maps.
Title: Re: Rino 530hcx can't find idaho topo map
Post by: Boyd on October 09, 2010, 12:38:56 PM
The Rino 530hcx does not have any internal memory: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=146&pID=8523#specsTab

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Ability to add maps:    yes
Built-in memory:    none (expandable memory only)

Is this the map you are using? http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/45/

Did you download the Mac version? Follow the instructions "loading the maps with a Mac" here: http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-load-maps-on-my-garmin-gps-unit/

After doing this, the map should be installed on your memory card. You should have a folder named Garmin on the card and a file named gmapsupp.img inside that folder. As Indrid has said, you cannot "open" .img files on your mac, they can only be accessed on the GPS itself.

See page 26 of your owners manual, "Map Information Setup" for how to enable the map on the GPS: http://static.garmincdn.com/pumac/Rino520HCx_OwnersManual.pdf