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General Category => Using The Maps/Garmin Software => Topic started by: Bullie on April 04, 2011, 05:16:42 PM

Title: Question about maps
Post by: Bullie on April 04, 2011, 05:16:42 PM
Hi everyone.  New to the board.

I recently purchased a Garmin Astro 220.  I downloaded a couple of maps from this site onto my computer and then copied them to my sd card.  My gps isn't displaying any alternate maps that I can find, only the original basic map. 

Likely the map files aren't installed.  I have no clue as how to do that.  Do I install on the compter then load to the card?  Is there some way to install the files on the gps from the card?  Help!!!


Thanks
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Boyd on April 04, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
Do you have mapsource or basecamp installed on your computer? You will need one of these programs to display the maps on your computer, and they are also used to send maps to your gps. Tell us more about exactly what you did and we can help.

You can't just copy the files to the SD card. What are the names of the files that you copied to the card?
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Bullie on April 04, 2011, 06:18:28 PM
Ok.  I did what you suspected.  I loaded the maps directly on the card.  Now, we BOTH know that won't work.  Yes I have base map loaded.  I am trying to load the SE USA map.
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Boyd on April 04, 2011, 06:45:40 PM
Do you mean Basecamp? Base Map is something else.  :)

Follow the instructions in this tutorial: http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-load-maps-on-my-garmin-gps-unit/
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Bullie on April 05, 2011, 07:44:33 AM
Yes, basecamp.  Garmin guy told me I really didn't need it.  Seems that is not the case.  I got it loaded and hopefully both of the maps I tried.  I have to learn how to switch from map to map.  It seems like they should include this software with the device.  I am told that Garmin used to ship the Astro with Map Source.
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Boyd on April 05, 2011, 10:08:47 AM
They used to include "Trip and Waypoint Manager" with all their handhelds. It's a stripped down Mapsource that only includes a rough basemap. I think they stopped doing this, since anyone can download the software from their site.

If you have already installed Basecamp and would like Mapsource, just download and install it here: http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=209

Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Bullie on April 05, 2011, 11:24:36 AM
Is Map Source a better or more useful program?
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Boyd on April 05, 2011, 11:44:10 AM
It is just "different", neither better nor worse. It allows you to download BirdsEye aerial imagery, but that is not supported on your Astro so no advantage there. It can also read maps directly from Garmin pre-loaded data cards and devices (like the City Navigator map loaded on a Nuvi). That won't have much value for you either. It can provide 3d views if using real Garmin topo maps, but again, no advantage there. There are a variety of other features aimed at outdoor vs vehicle use.

Mapsource is a bit more stable and time-tested. Give it a try and see which you prefer. Both programs will access the same maps that you have installed.
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Bullie on April 05, 2011, 01:13:37 PM
Sounds good.  Thanks for your help. 
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Bullie on April 05, 2011, 07:58:44 PM
I overwrote the Mississippi map with the SE US map.   :-[   Major bummer. 
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Boyd on April 06, 2011, 03:33:23 AM
Since the Astro is an older design, it can only access one map file (gmapsupp.img). Therefore, everytime you send a map to the device it will replace whatever was previously loaded there.

To use more than one map, you need to select all of them with the map tool in mapsource and send them as one bundle. See this tutorial and note item #8 which says to repeat steps 2 through 7 in order to send more than one map. http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-load-maps-on-my-garmin-gps-unit/
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Bullie on April 06, 2011, 06:19:03 AM
If I load the maps to the card with it in the computer or a reader can I load more than one map?
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Boyd on April 06, 2011, 07:16:51 AM
Sure, mapsource will send the file to either a card reader or the card inside the unit. You choose the destination in the "Send To Device" dialog box.
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Bullie on April 06, 2011, 09:45:17 AM

Thanks again for your help.


From experience, if you are using basecamp and try to load a second map while the card is in the Astro, the second map overwrites the first.
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Seldom on April 06, 2011, 11:25:18 AM
Quote from: Bullie on April 06, 2011, 09:45:17 AM
From experience, if you are using basecamp and try to load a second map while the card is in the Astro, the second map overwrites the first.

That's because the Astro can only accept a single map file called gmapsupp.IMG.  However, using either BaseCamp or MapSource, you can combine a large number of map tiles from different map products into that single file.  For instance, you can load some tiles from City Navigator and a transparent topo overlay for those tiles (different products here) into the same gmapsupp.IMG.
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Bullie on April 06, 2011, 11:38:10 AM
Now you have my attention!!  Is there already a tutorial on the site that tells me how to do this?
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Seldom on April 06, 2011, 11:46:35 AM
http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-load-maps-on-my-garmin-gps-unit/  covers it.  See item 8 for MapSource.



8. Repeat steps 2 through 7 for any other maps you want to load at the same time (such as a Topo map and City Navigator and another topo map).
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Boyd on April 06, 2011, 12:16:17 PM
This is exactly what I posted earlier....

Quote from: Boyd on April 06, 2011, 03:33:23 AM
See this tutorial and note item #8 which says to repeat steps 2 through 7 in order to send more than one map. http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-load-maps-on-my-garmin-gps-unit/
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Bullie on April 06, 2011, 01:11:33 PM
Maybe  ;), but I thought I knew what I was doing then.  Now I am relatively sure I don't know what I am doing so therefore I am more receptive to what was good information both times it was presented. 

You just gave me the answer before I ever got around to the question.  You were too many steps ahead of me.
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: beiley on May 02, 2011, 10:13:39 PM
Quote from: Boyd on April 05, 2011, 10:08:47 AM
They used to include "Trip and Waypoint Manager" with all their handhelds. It's a stripped down Mapsource that only includes a rough basemap. I think they stopped doing this, since anyone can download the software from their site.

If you have already installed Basecamp and would like Mapsource, just download and install it here: http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=209



That link offers Mapsource for download, but they have a note that says:

WARNING: This software will not work unless you already own a MapSource product.

If I have a 62s, that didn't come with Mapsource on a DVD, does that mean I can't use this download?

Thanks,
Mark
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Indrid Cold on May 03, 2011, 03:53:05 AM
Quote from: beiley on May 02, 2011, 10:13:39 PM
If I have a 62s, that didn't come with Mapsource on a DVD, does that mean I can't use this download?

Thanks,
Mark
You should be using BaseCamp with that GPS:
http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/us/onthetrail/basecamp
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: Boyd on May 04, 2011, 02:36:16 PM
Indrid is correct about using Basecamp because Mapsource cannot properly exchange waypoints with new models like yours. However, the instructions I gave you are correct for installing Mapsource. If you already have installed Basecamp, you can download and install Mapsource with no issues. Basecamp installs a simple map on your computer, and Mapsource will consider that a "Mapsource Product".
Title: Re: Question about maps
Post by: beiley on May 04, 2011, 03:09:57 PM
Thanks for the help, I'll use BaseCamp then...  It seems like a nice program.

Mark