Downloaded Texas, Colorado, and Wyoming 2011 topo maps to basecamp. I formatted a new SDHC 4 gig micro card on a USB card reader/writer and tried to load the maps collectively to the card with mapinstall. At the finish of mapinstall, the message said that the installation was unsuccessful. I then reformatted the card and loaded them one at a time. the only map that would load was the Texas topo. I deleted the Colo and Wy from basecamp and downloaded them again in basecamp. I formatted the card each time prior to trying to load them separately. Neither Colo or Wy would load. What have I done wrong, or is Colo and Wy 2011 topos corrupt or something wrong with them? I do have Texas 2011 topo currently on the 4 gig card in my Garmin Etrex Vista CX. Thanks wl
What OS are you using?
Since you are using Map Install, is it safe to assume that ALL the maps loaded in BaseCamp and can be viewed there?
All three maps are in basecamp and was able to view all 3 in basecamp. Please help me with what OS is and I'll answer your question. thks wl
Operating system is Windows 7. thx wl
You realize, I hope, that your Etrex Vista can only have a single file named gmapsupp.img, but that you can use MapInstall to combine all the maps into a single file. (See http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-load-maps-on-my-garmin-gps-unit/#pcbasecamp ) If you try to load the maps one at a time you will overwrite them.
If you have gotten at least one map to you card and can view it there, I'd say review the tutorial carefully. However, you may also want to look at the limitations Garmin places on cards for your Etrex.
https://support.garmin.com/support/searchSupport/case.faces?caseId={9dec4ad0-954a-11dd-f60b-000000000000}
As I originally said, first install to card I did combine all 3 maps in mapinstall prior to trying to get them to the card. After that I did try individually to install the maps one at a time and repeatedly the only one to install was Texas. thx wl
Quote from: mileup1 on February 08, 2012, 07:18:41 PM
After that I did try individually to install the maps one at a time and repeatedly the only one to install was Texas. thx wl
If by that you mean you installed Colorado or Wyoming and you got an error or , turned on your Etrex, and nothing was there, I'm out of ideas. Only other thing I can suggest is uninstalling Colorado and Wyoming and re-installing them. (With BaseCamp closed). Or downloading again and re-installing.
Are both the CO and WY maps by the same author? The CO and WY maps should have overlap. Your problem could be you are loading coverage of the same area from both the CO and WY maps. So try not loading coverage for the same area from both maps.
Only 1 time did I combine all 3 topos into gmapsupp.img and it did not work. After that I put the topos separate from each other 1 at a time into gmapsupp.img and tried to load them only 1 at a time to the card. Only sucessful with Texas topo. I then deleted Co and Wy from Basecamp, downloaded Wy and Co to Basecamp again, but still could not get Wy or Co by themself to download so as to have only Co or wy on the card at 1 time. I repeated the delete from Basecamp etc again with same result. If I put the card with Co or Wy loaded on it in the Etrex it immediately shut down and turned off. At this point, I reloaded Texas separately with success and have now deleted Wy and Co from BaseCamp again. Yes, Wy and Co are both created by maps4gps, but do not appear to overlap each other. thx wl
Quote from: mileup1 on February 09, 2012, 10:14:20 AM
Yes, Wy and Co are both created by maps4gps, but do not appear to overlap each other. thx wl
To follow jbensman's suggestion though, try loading border tiles from only one state. That would eliminate the possibility of overlap.
jbensman, do you have any idea why the overlap should be a problem? The only thing I can think of is that map tiles had the same names in both states. When I load maps with that problem onto my OR, they don't show up, but I don't get an error message.
First - sorry for not posting sooner; three others in the family have various needs for the modem/internet and I was out for most of the day.
Seldom & jbensman - There is no overlap nor duplicate quads/tiles between WY & CO. I work/build in quads and then 'package' by State. In this case quads with a southern latitude of 41 degrees went to WY, those with a northern latitude of 41 degrees went to CO; no quads cross 41 degrees.
mileup - you verbage describing what you have been done is variable, and I am not sure you are doing what we think you are doing. I.e. - original post - '... tried to load the maps ... '; reply 5 - '... first install to card ...'; reply 8 - ' ... download .... to have ... on the card ...'
I rarely use BaseCamp nor MapInstall, however, the procedure would be to:
1. download a mapset;
2. run/execute the .exe file to install the mapset creating the proper links in the Windows registry;
3. (view the data in BaseCamp as needed);
4. select some or all the quads/tiles from one or more mapsets and upload them to the GPSr/micro memory card.
You mentioned being able to view each of the mapsets in BaseCamp, I think your downloads (from this website correct? ) are OK.
I do not think you can delete a mapset from BaseCamp. You need to run the uninstall .exe file which is in the folder for each mapset (each is specific to the mapset it was packaged with).
1. Uninstall the CO topo 2011 mapset.
2. With BaseCamp and MapInstall closed; install CO topo 2011. Try this first without a another download from gpsfiledepot.
3. Start BaseCamp; select CO topo 2011; zoom-in to at least the 2 mile level to view the actual data. - Note this is just a check and need not be done to upload map data to the GPSr/card.
4. Close BaseCamp and start MapInstall; select CO topo; use the marquee tool to select some or all of the quads; note the total file size selected; then upload them to the GPSr/card.
5. Check the Garmin folder on the GPSr/card for a gmapsupp.img file with the time of upload. The file size of gmapsupp.img should be close to what it was in MapInstall - Just another check.
6. If necessary, put the card in the GPSr.
7. Check to make sure the mapset is listed and enabled.
8. Pan to the area of data you uploaded. (zoom-out, use the Garmin base-map for reference; zoom-in). This does not happen automatically as it may do in BaseCamp/MapInstall.
9. With display detail set to normal, the GPSr will switch from the Garmin base-map to the CO topo mapset at about the 3 mile display level. The full detail of the mapset will be displayed when you have zoomed-in to about the 0.2mi or 800' display level.
This should work, when it does not, it has almost always been because something was not done but the user said they did do it.
I followed your 9 items which I had already been doing. Co topo with mapinstall said I successfully loaded Co onto the card. Put card in GPSr and it immediately shut down and turned off. Reformatted card and then mapinstall said I was successful at loading Texas topo (which I had been able to use in the GPSr previously OK) but when put in the GPSr it now shut the handheld down immediately. I then put another card with garmin maps on it in the GPSr and it worked fine. I then put the card that shut the gps down back in the card reader/writer one more time and mapinstall said I was successful at downloading Texas topo again. Put card in GPSr and immediately shut down the gps. Could the 64 bite in this windows 7 be the problem even though I do have Map Trails loaded in BaseCamp? ths wl
I reformatted the 4g card that shut down the GPSr and with it blank with nothing on it, it worked in the gps fine with no shutdown. wl
I have never heard of anything like that before.
The 'my trails ... ' was necessary for the mapsets using a 64-bit installer to install so that BaseCamp/MapInstall/MapSource could use them. If the Garmin software programs see the mapsets (which they have) you are past that issue.
What version of MapInstall are you using?
Was it recently downloaded?
What brand of micro memory card?
And perhapd most critically, was the card formated in FAT32? If not, that has been a problem in the past for any mapset.
Was that a prerecorded Garmin mapset or something you loaded onto a blank micro memory card?
Another posibility is he may have mapsets with the same img file name. The OP needs to be clear on which maps he is using. Are all 3 maps4gps? If not, there could be a conflcit with img file names. The OP may also have some other map on the GPS that has the same file name. A long time ago, Eastern Land Ownership and Western Land Ownership had an img with the same name for one of the imgs. Until I fixed the problem, if you loaded both map sets, only one mapset (not the conflciting img, but the entire mapset) would show on the GPS.
1.Do not know version of mapinstall. Maybe I don't actually have "mapinstall". BaseCamp version I have is 3.2.2. When the USB reader/ writer is connected with card in it. I rt click on device in Basecamp and then click on "Install Maps on Memory Card" which it does. 2. New Computer, downloaded BaseCamp a couple of weeks ago. 3. SanDisk is the brand card I have. 4. Don't know if hard drive is a Fat 32 or not. Under my computer the drive shows a designation of "T1106240WOD(C:)" with a file system of NTFS. 5. The 64mb card with the garmin partial maps that is still working in the GPSr was downloaded by me to the card from mapsource 4 or 5 years ago. thx wl
I think that's the last official version of BaseCamp, but there's a Beta that's more recent.
Forgive me if this has already been answered, but have you updated to the latest Etrex software? I think the original version was limited to 2GB but that was a long time ago.
Also, the memory card should be formatted to FAT32, AFAIK hard drive doesn't matter.
I remember when I got my 60CSX (2006) Garmin mentioned that it was allergic to one particular SanDisk card. But Garmin's FAQ isn't showing anything useful.
Hint: I'd find your posts easier to read if you'd break them down into more paragraphs.
Downloaded card in the GPSr with Co topo instead of external reader/writer. Takes alot more time which I knew. GPSr not only stayed on but was able to use Co topo in the GPSr finally! Could the USB card reader/writer be the problem? Would rather use card reader/writer for speed obviously. thx wl
It sure could! Old reader might not support newer faster card. This happened to me when I got my first 4GB card, but I was able to find a faster reader (thumb drive size that takes external card) for about 8USD on Amaxon.
Glad you got it sorted.
Older USB card readers often don't support SDHC cards, and it's virtually impossible to find a non-SDHC micro card. So it may be the type of card as opposed to the capacity. I ran into this problem myself a few years ago when the internal slots in my Dell desktop computer wouldn't work properly with SDHC cards. So I dug out my USB reader and found it was incompatible as well! >:(
Quote from: Boyd on February 10, 2012, 12:29:04 PM
So it may be the type of card as opposed to the capacity.
That's what I meant to say. Older, smaller cards weren't "HC".
This card reader I have been using is new. It is USB 2.0 Memory Card Reader and is supposed to support SD/SDHC memory cards. I realize that it could still be bad so tell me what to get. "Seldom", do you know the parameters for your Thumb Drive or what to order. Thanks for all of you guys help. wl
Mine just says 'Kingston" on it, and it looks like it's out of production. Considering your card's a Sandisk this might be your safest option http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-MicroMate-Memory-Reader-SDDR-113/dp/B000YBH4YU/ref=pd_vtp_e_10 but really you're on your own with this. As I read it, it looks like you need an adapter to get it up to SD size. Do you have one of those?
I would suggest you select 2 or 3 quads from CO, 2 or 3 quads from WY (adjacent to CO would be easier to find) and 2 or 3 from TX. Send these to the card in the GPSr (should not take long with only 6 to 9 or so quads).
If that works, do the same with the card reader.
With all the reformats you did, Windows 7 may have reformated the card in NTS without give the option of FAT32 if the card was in the reader. If the card was in the GPSr, perhaps the GPSr reformated it to FAT32 if there was no existing valid mapset on the card.
If your card reader specifically says it supports SDHC cards, then I doubt that it's the problem...
I took my 4g sdhc card out of etrex vista cx that was working and put the card in another new card reader/writer. I did not format the card as I thought I would download to the card by Mapinstall by garmin's erasing what maps were on the card and by installing a partial topo to the card in the reader/writer.
After putting the card back into the etrex, the etrex did shut down. I then went on and tried to format the card in both NTFS which is my system in windows 7 and FAT 32(default) which didn't work. I then CUT the card in the reader to delete data and was successful in formatting the card in FAT32 with nothing on it.
I now have the card back into the etrex and it is downloading the maps I originally had in there. I guess there is more than a card reader/writer problem with using reader/writer to download maps as Boyd suggested. thx