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Title: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: dabson on June 01, 2010, 03:23:14 PM
Just got a Oregon 450.  Not familar with GPS units.  Tried to download a map to a SD-micro in my desktop and also tried with it in the GPS.  I have downloaded the training, mapsource, and basecamp.  Mapsource keeps giving me a message that my system is not compatable.  I've tried it on computers with xp up to Windows 7.  Basecamp ran but I cannot get an area selected to download.  It showed me a map rathar than a list of tiles as in the tutorial.  It ran from explore, not from clicking on the exe. file as in the tutorial.  I couldn't get to the exe file.  My computer skills are not the best.  Can someone tell me where I'm missing it?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Seldom on June 01, 2010, 04:34:43 PM
Connect your OR to your PC and run BaseCamp.  Right click on your OR icon in BaseCamp and select
"install maps".  This will start another application called MapInstall which came with BaseCamp.  You can select your map tiles from within the MapInstall window.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Buck_Mulligan on June 01, 2010, 10:17:56 PM
Quote from: seldom_sn on June 01, 2010, 04:34:43 PM
Connect your OR to your PC and run BaseCamp.  Right click on your OR icon in BaseCamp and select
"install maps". 

Hi,

When I attempt this with my new 450t, the "install maps" menu option is grayed out and does not respond. I used the installer for the mapset I downloaded (Arizona Topo 24K) but neither Base Camp nor Map Source recognizes the installation.  ??? Any next steps received with gratitude.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Seldom on June 02, 2010, 03:02:36 AM
Can you see the two "Devices" (the unit and removable media) at the bottom of the top left "Library" window?

Can you see maps in BaseCamp?  The installers from this site install maps to the PC, in BaseCamp or MapSource, nor to the GPSr.  Generally, if you double click on the download it will automatically install to MapSource/BaseCamp.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: dabson on June 02, 2010, 05:47:16 AM
I hope that I am doing this correctly.  In response to the question by seldom sn, I could see the GPS unit and its files in the left hand box but not the micro SD card installed in it.  When trying to download straight to the SD card when installed in the computer the card showed up. 

In Basecamp, it showed me the map of the world but I could not get it to select an area.  I tried different methods but didn't find anything that worked for me. 

Thanks for the response.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Boyd on June 02, 2010, 09:19:41 AM
It sounds like you have not installed the maps on your computer properly, or that you don't understand how to select them in Mapsource (this is a common problem and the cause of many of the questions here).

Did you follow this tutorial exactly? And I mean *exactly* as it is presented?

http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-load-maps-on-my-garmin-gps-unit/

This is the key to selecting the map. It is similar in BaseCamp

(http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/images/articles/image/load1.jpg)

If the map isn't on the dropdown menu, then it is not properly installed.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Seldom on June 02, 2010, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: dabson on June 02, 2010, 05:47:16 AM
I hope that I am doing this correctly.  In response to the question by seldom sn, I could see the GPS unit and its files in the left hand box but not the micro SD card installed in it.  When trying to download straight to the SD card when installed in the computer the card showed up. 

In Basecamp, it showed me the map of the world but I could not get it to select an area.  I tried different methods but didn't find anything that worked for me. 

Thanks for the response.

If you can't see the installed card in BaseCamp, you might want to check that the memory card is physically installed correctly.  Assuming your unit is like my OR300, remove the batteries, push the holder up to release, insert the card, and push the holder down to lock.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: dabson on June 02, 2010, 05:34:08 PM
Boyd, what you are saying sounds correct.  The drop down list in step 2 of the tutorial using Mapsoruce and step 6 using Basecamp does not appear for me.  I can't see where I am not following the tutorial but will study it again.  I went back and downloaded and ran the training center, Mapsource, and Basecamp again.  I got Mapsource and Basecamp And Mapinstall to run but cannot get that dropdown list.  What shows on the screen for me is different.  Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: maps4gps on June 02, 2010, 05:41:13 PM
Which mapset are you trying to get on your OR450?
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: -Oz- on June 02, 2010, 06:26:01 PM
Can you post what you see?  print screen button will copy it then you can paste it in paint and upload it here.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Boyd on June 03, 2010, 06:17:30 PM
Quote from: dabson on June 03, 2010, 05:51:24 PMSomeone asked what mapset I was attempting to download.  Does this make a difference?  It is not a vacation spot at the present time. 

Actually that could make a huge difference. The maps have been created by many different people so there is no real "standard". Each mapmaker does things their own way and has different objectives in mind when creating their maps. Some maps have installers, others do not. Some maps have known issues.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Buck_Mulligan on June 03, 2010, 11:19:03 PM
Quote from: seldom_sn on June 02, 2010, 03:02:36 AM
Can you see the two "Devices" (the unit and removable media) at the bottom of the top left "Library" window?

Sorry, I haven't been able to get back to this for a couple of days.

Yes, I can see the two devices in BaseCamp.

QuoteCan you see maps in BaseCamp?  The installers from this site install maps to the PC, in BaseCamp or MapSource, nor to the GPSr.  Generally, if you double click on the download it will automatically install to MapSource/BaseCamp.

I can see other maps in BaseCamp, but Arizona Topo is not in the dropdown. Ditto for MapSource. Please see the attached (I hope) images.

I download and run (and have done so more than once) aztopo_2.00_install.exe. As a result of the install, I get the following directory created: C:\Program Files (x86)\Arizona Topo (W7 Home Premium, 64-bit). That directory contains 47 IMG files, Arizona Topo.MDX, Arizona Topo.TDB, and uninstall.exe.  And then I see nothing in either application. And that is where I am stuck, so I think I am overlooking the obvious.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Seldom on June 04, 2010, 02:53:31 AM
There should also be an Arizona Topo.IMG file in the Arizona Topo folder.  It's about 290Kbytes.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: -Oz- on June 05, 2010, 09:44:48 AM
If you download and install the New Mexico topo does that work?

I have the Arizona Topo loaded on win 7 pro 64-bit...
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Buck_Mulligan on June 05, 2010, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: seldom_sn on June 04, 2010, 02:53:31 AM
There should also be an Arizona Topo.IMG file in the Arizona Topo folder.  It's about 290Kbytes.

Yes, that is one of the 47 IMG files.

Quote from: -Oz- on June 05, 2010, 09:44:48 AM
If you download and install the New Mexico topo does that work?

I'll have to try it. I've only attempted Arizona so far (guess where I live?). It may take me several days to get to it. I'll be back once I've made the attempt.

Thanks to you both.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Seldom on June 05, 2010, 05:02:52 PM
Quote from: -Oz- on June 05, 2010, 09:44:48 AM
I have the Arizona Topo loaded on win 7 pro 64-bit...

Me too.  Nice map by the way...
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: -Oz- on June 06, 2010, 06:21:57 AM
Quote from: Buck_Mulligan on June 05, 2010, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: -Oz- on June 05, 2010, 09:44:48 AM
If you download and install the New Mexico topo does that work?

I'll have to try it. I've only attempted Arizona so far (guess where I live?). It may take me several days to get to it. I'll be back once I've made the attempt.

Thanks to you both.
Yea the reason I want you to try New Mexico is they use slightly different installer scripts so that will help debug the problem.

edit: fixed quote
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Buck_Mulligan on June 07, 2010, 09:38:49 PM
Quote from: -Oz- on June 06, 2010, 06:21:57 AM

Yea the reason I want you to try New Mexico is they use slightly different installer scripts so that will help debug the problem.

edit: fixed quote

The New Mexico download sailed into both BaseCamp and Mapsource like a tar ball on a Gulf coast beach. If I may say so, though, they look WAY nicer. Loaded onto the 450t without a hitch.

So what's different about the Arizona installer?
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Buck_Mulligan on June 22, 2010, 02:33:05 PM
I don't like bumping, but I wonder if you've been able to make any progress on this issue with the Arizona map installer.

To make this post not be a total bump, I'll point out that I noticed in the New Mexico install that the maps got installed to (and I'm doing this from memory, so it may not be 100%, but it will serve), ...\Programs(x86)New Mexico Topo instead of ...\Programs(x86)\New Mexico Topo. This is Win7-64. It appears a backslash is missing in the install folder name in the New Mexico installer, unless I changed it somewhere without realizing I did so.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Boyd on June 22, 2010, 05:04:11 PM
I am not familiar with that installer, but if it uses the same template as others on the site, I believe you are prompted for a file location. Otherwise it will use a default.
Title: Re: Oregon 450 map download problem
Post by: Buck_Mulligan on June 22, 2010, 07:36:12 PM
You are right, Boyd, thanks. I just tried reinstalling it, and this time it put it where it said it was gonna. So I must have overtyped something when I wasn't paying attention.

OK, so the New Mexico installer is working great. Now I hope I can get some help getting the Arizona maps installed.